Stupid ignition timing thing!
Ok, ever since I did my HEI conversion, My engine has been knocking just a little bit. I have set the timing numerous times and it does not fix it. Here is what I think the problem is. That stupid retarded metal bracket thing! Why the hell is it ahaped like thta? What part of it should the timing mark be set to? It should just be shaped like an arrow or something. Where on this thing should be my mark for the timimg be set to. My balancer is clean and the numbers are clearly visible. Please advise. I will post pics next.
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Vehicle: 1965 Pontiac Catalina (fastback 2+2)
Chasis: 1982 Ford LTD Country Squire
Drivetrain: 302 V8 carb, AOD, 8.8 with 3.08 gears.
Big Brake swap and front suspension completed.
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use the edge of the pointer as a reference mark......not the hole.....no clue what the hole is for
1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
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Pictures.
Here it is.Attached FilesVehicle: 1965 Pontiac Catalina (fastback 2+2)
Chasis: 1982 Ford LTD Country Squire
Drivetrain: 302 V8 carb, AOD, 8.8 with 3.08 gears.
Big Brake swap and front suspension completed.
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The red arrow all the way to the right??? in my "paint" picture?Vehicle: 1965 Pontiac Catalina (fastback 2+2)
Chasis: 1982 Ford LTD Country Squire
Drivetrain: 302 V8 carb, AOD, 8.8 with 3.08 gears.
Big Brake swap and front suspension completed.
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yea the one all the way on the right
1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)
please be patient, rebuilding an empire!
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listen to scott... you want to use the flat pointer, NOT the round/circle thing.
also, if you are using vacuum advance, make sure the hose is connected to PORTED vacuum, not manifold vacuum.2003 Town Car Signature - 3.27 RAR, Dual exhaust and J-mod - SOLD 9/2011
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The hole thing is for some sort of factory test thing, which I believe uses the big groove that seems like it ought to have something to do with setting the timing.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
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Originally posted by phayzer5
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1) Have you performed a TDC test to be sure your "0" mark really is at true TDC?
2) Do you know what your advance curve is?
3) I'm told (haven't verified myself) that different timing lights may give different readings.
4) Different engines may like different total advance figures. What works for Thain's engine may be too much or too little for yours.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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yeah... I bumped the initial timing on my engine from 8 to 13 degrees advanced and while I was doing that, it didn't even flinch at 20... ran like a top. though after setting that to 13 and putting the spout connector back in, just for grins I checked the idle advance and it was hovering around 20. Not sure I wanna push it much further though.
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Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.Comment
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What's the total advance, then?Originally posted by slymer View Post2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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I dunno and I can't check it right now since that car has no radiator.
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Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.Comment
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Most of them don't set timing, what with the EDIS and shit.91 Mercury CP, Lopo 302, AOD, 3.08LSD. 3g upgrade, Moog wagon coils up front, cc819s in the back. KYB GR-2 police shocks. Energy suspension control arm bushings. Smog deleted.Originally posted by gadget73
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Oooof, All good info. Setting it all the way to to the right thingie made the engine happy. however, I thnk it could perform better. When it was too advanced and knocking, it had more balls. I think Im gona advance it just a bit.Vehicle: 1965 Pontiac Catalina (fastback 2+2)
Chasis: 1982 Ford LTD Country Squire
Drivetrain: 302 V8 carb, AOD, 8.8 with 3.08 gears.
Big Brake swap and front suspension completed.
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probably worth looking into tuning your advance curve. It may need less total advance and brought in sooner so it can run more initial, or something else. I dunno, distributor tuning is a hazy area.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousersComment
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