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    Emmisions help!

    To get my car registered I have to have it e checked, today I got it tested and needless to say it failed one part of the test. My NO levels are too high almost twice the limit. The stupid booklet says it occurs when exhaust temps run too high. What causes this? I has new cats, O2 sensor, and other things. What the hell? Any ideas?

    2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
    My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

    #2
    Running rich. If it is running rich the CATs will overheat and lose effectiveness.

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      #3
      I read something about the egr causing this also.

      2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
      My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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        #4
        pull the egr and clean it, are the cap/rotor/plugs recent?
        Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

        Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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          #5
          bad/stuck/clogged EGR system usually. Agree with mrltd about cleaning it.
          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

          Originally posted by phayzer5
          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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            #6
            Anyone know the requirements for a classic/collectilble license plates in ohio. E-check is so retarded, in Columbus they dont have it and it is a much larger city than Cleveland! I want to get the plates so I dont have to worry about it and switch to a carb right away.

            2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
            My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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              #7
              i know in pa it's 15 years for a classic tag.........no emmisions required.......dont know what the laws are in ohio

              1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
              2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
              1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
              1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
              2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
              1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

              please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                #8
                Move. In New Mexico, there aren't even inspections :banana:

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                  #9
                  actually, NOx is formed in the combustion chamber, and running rich reduces combustion chamber temperatures, which creates less NOx. What running rich does is increase Carbon Monoxide and Hydrocarbon emissions.

                  Running Lean increases combustion chamber temperatures and increases NOx. Extreme lean can also increase CO and HC because it's easier to miss when running lean.

                  now, cap rotor wires plugs are all good suggestions. egr is well, egr and it blows goats, but you can pull it and clean the ports, it's easy, just need a pick and a vacuum cleaner hehe. hell a pocket screwdriver would work.

                  good luck, I have to echeck my truck, but thankfully, this is the last year of this crap.
                  GMNRadio DJ, Podcast Co-Host
                  1984 Ford LTD Crown Victoria - Drag Car.
                  99 Ranger 2.5 - Parts hauler and Pit truck.
                  03 Mustang 3.8 Convertable - Head Gaskets fukered up
                  95 S10 93 Accord

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by lincolnmania
                    i know in pa it's 15 years for a classic tag.........no emmisions required.......dont know what the laws are in ohio
                    25 years for historical or I can get collector plates for it but I may not be eligible because of this "In an effort to ensure that all vehicles registered as collector vehicles are truly collectible, the Bureau of Motor Vehicles references the National Automobile Classic and Collectible, 1946-1975 or The Complete Book of Collectible Cars 1930-1990 to determine vehicles that are true collector vehicles. Although we recognize that a vehicle may be unique because of time, energy and investment expended by the owner, these publications are used in determining eligibility for collector’s license plates. Due to a administrative ruling, vehicle models not listed in the above publications may be considered collector vehicles if the applicant obtains documentation from the manufacturer that the vehicle was in limited production, is in demand as a collectible vehicle at the time of application or a sizable investment can be proven. "

                    I think my car only qualifies if I say and prove its a brougham, which its not. Any way of cheating the system on this one?

                    2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
                    My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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                      #11
                      Unless you can fast forward 5 years, or change your car to a 1980, I'm going to say no, especially with the production numbers and non-intrest status these cars have anymore.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #12
                        there's a way to cheat, it's called buy some land in a non echeck county, get an address there and


                        huh, what was i saying, sara evans video on cmt....


                        oh yea, land, non echeck county, address, register there
                        GMNRadio DJ, Podcast Co-Host
                        1984 Ford LTD Crown Victoria - Drag Car.
                        99 Ranger 2.5 - Parts hauler and Pit truck.
                        03 Mustang 3.8 Convertable - Head Gaskets fukered up
                        95 S10 93 Accord

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                          #13
                          Or use the old rod builder's trick of a gallon or so of denatured alcohol in a close to empty tank. Usually that works for CO/HC but I dont know about NOX. Not really good for the fuel hoses to run long term but it won't hurt anything if you fill up after leaving the inspection station.

                          Just fix the EGR shit and you should be good.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mercmarquis
                            E-check is so retarded, in Columbus they dont have it and it is a much larger city than Cleveland!
                            The law makers live in Columbus ...

                            As far as collectors plates. If your car is listed in one of the two publications of collectors cars the state uses, you can get them. If your car is not in one of the two books, you can fill out some paper work and try to convince the state your car is a collectible.

                            You also have to have another car registered in your name. The collectors car cannot be your only ride.

                            I looked into this for my 90 Mustang LX 5.0. They listed a 90 LX 5.0 in the one book, but it was the special green and white 7-up vert. I recently saw a late model vette with collectors plates.

                            Tom

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                              #15
                              I guess I will try fix the egr tomarrow, it looks like rain today and I am still tired from last nights game....no it wasnt a game it was a massacre!

                              One thing though my grandpa always complained about the car stalling so he had a mechanic change it and it did not help. I looked at it the other day and saw a vacuum line plugged with a bolt that goes to the egr. Any theories there?

                              2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
                              My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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