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    351W header question

    Hello gang. I just got back in from the Charlotte Auto Fair. I have decided to keep the 351W in that 79 Ford Truck that I tried to get a title to. It just runs out to good. But anyways, I am wanting to take the 79 engine out of that truck to put in my car. My car does have the 351W in it as well. I had bought an Performer intake and Holley 600 or 650 Carb single pump. I am also wanting to freshen the ol truck motor up and install a bigger cam. Nothin majorly big, just want it to run and sound good. I was wondering on what kind of Headers would fit in my car? I thought maybe I'd have better luck with Shorty's. I wasn't sure. I figured I'd make a post before I go and buy something that wont fit.

    #2
    BBK 351 swap headers are your best bet

    1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
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      #3
      if "luck" means ease of installation- yes go with shorties

      if "luck" means performance then...

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        #4
        well, the 351 cars got a different front pipe, which is wider and a little taller to ft up to the 351, so I'm thinking swap headers might not actually fit since they are made so that a stock 302 width/length pipe will mate to them. A standard set of shorties may be closer, but the flanges don't really mate up to the stock downpipe flanges properly. You might have better luck with 90 Towncar manifolds. They still suck, but they suck less than the iron logs.
        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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          #5
          Okay. Thanks for the information. Sorry I haven't been on here in a few days. I've been really busy.

          I would really like to get headers for the car. Is there a different kind of flanges I can get from something else that will work? Maybe a truck or another car that has the Windsor in it?

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            #6
            i have a set of mid-length headers that fit a panther with a 351, but im pretty sure you will have to go with a console shift, and may have to modify your a/c box or the passenger header
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              #7
              Hmmm. I would like to go with a console shift anyways but not too sure yet. I was kinda hopeing to find a set that would fit good. Kinda like a Key with the lock that fits great. But I guess that's going to be bout impossible without some sort of modification

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                #8
                I have BBK 15110 (coated 1511s) swap headers, and they are great quality.

                I have custom front pipes to mate to them, though.
                **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
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                **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck Duties

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                  #9
                  Do you remember what the price was when you got them? I also like BBk as well. I just wonder how much I could find a good used set for.

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                    #10
                    Shop around and you should be able to find uncoated sets new for under 300. I've been quoted 279 Canadian.

                    85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
                    160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
                    waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc

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                      #11
                      Oh Okay. That's about what I had in ind that it'd be.

                      Oh and P72Ford how much of a trouble was it to custom the front pipes for the headers? Did you have a muffler shop to do it?

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                        #12
                        With 351W swap headers you can use a standard Mustang H-pipe.
                        2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
                        1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
                        1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Freshmeat View Post
                          With 351W swap headers you can use a standard Mustang H-pipe.
                          Most of the time. Myself and another on the "other" Panther site had zero success with it.

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                            #14
                            Where was the problem?
                            2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
                            1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
                            1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Freshmeat View Post
                              Where was the problem?
                              Seemed the motor sat too high in the car versus the Fox platform it was designed for. Once bolted up to the headers, the h-pipe exited at an angle to the rear, and not parallel with the ground. I had both a catted and an O/R H-pipe from BBK and neither were anywhere close enough. Not sure what brand the other guy had. Perhaps a list of h and x-pipes that do work will need to be created? I ended up using just the downpipes of the catted h-pipe with some help from a muffler shop to get it done. Even then, there were clearance issues. Enough so that when the time came to put cats on the car, both downtubes were replaced. Driving that thing with just downpipes was crazy, BTW.

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