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    #16
    my 85 colony park does sorta the same thing but, my engine is a 351W and i done a full tune up and all. i got so used to it that i dont even notice it much. im gonna say it aint much to worry about

    1981 Mercury Marquis Brougham 2-Door 302/ 5-speed -special blend (GMGT)
    1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
    1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
    2007 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited (Hustlyn)
    2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Down with O.P.P)

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      #17
      Without actually riding in cadfan's car, it's hard to say.

      On the one vehicle I had this happen to me with (a v6), for all intents and purposes one cylinder was dead. The injector either wasn't firing at all, or it was so clogged that no fuel was getting through.

      As you might imagine, on acceleration when lockup was engaged, this was EXTREMELY noticeable!
      1987 Ford LTD Crown Victoria 2-door Coupe - perpetually "sort of" for sale...
      Black with Red cloth (velour?) interior.
      Purchased on 10/10/2008, with only 70,386 original miles, and only ONE previous owner.
      Reader's Ride post, First pic with "new" rims, Other pics with "new" rims

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        #18
        i just relized, all you guys are fuel injected lol nevermind, mine is carbed lol

        1981 Mercury Marquis Brougham 2-Door 302/ 5-speed -special blend (GMGT)
        1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
        1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
        2007 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited (Hustlyn)
        2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Down with O.P.P)

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          #19
          Originally posted by marquisman View Post
          my 85 colony park does sorta the same thing but, my engine is a 351W and i done a full tune up and all. i got so used to it that i dont even notice it much. im gonna say it aint much to worry about
          ever put a timing chain in it? if its the original 85 chain, its probably that crappy plastic toothed thing that gets real sloppy by 80k, or whatever that amounts to in fake miles.
          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

          Originally posted by phayzer5
          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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            #20
            nope, but i dont know about the origonal owner. the car runs fine, plenty of power and starts up good and my fuel econ is good. there isent even any poping sounds from the exhaust like my 81 merc had lol

            1981 Mercury Marquis Brougham 2-Door 302/ 5-speed -special blend (GMGT)
            1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
            1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
            2007 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited (Hustlyn)
            2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Down with O.P.P)

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              #21
              UPDATE

              I took the GM to the doctor today.... before opening his own shop 10 years ago he had 20 years in as a Ford dealer tech. He is known as Mr Ford in town! Anyway, the tv cable adjustment was right on, injector drop test fine, ignition scoped fine as well. There were 3 codes set.. I didn't get the codes but he said 1 was for idle speed control, one was for rich mixture, and the last was for EGR/ position sensor. When he opened the EGR valve at idle, it didn't affect the engine at all. He verified the diaphram was pulling the pintle and would hold vacumn well. He believes that the EGR passage is (partially) blocked.
              I assume exhaust gas comes from a crossover in the lower intake, to a passage in the upper and then the spacer??? Friday he is going to clean the EGR passages and the idle air valve, then retest. Is the EGR sensor expensive if it still sets the code after? Again many thanks to all for your help!
              sigpic'86 GM LS sedan bone stock 113k triple dark sable, most of the bells and whistles, second owner. SOLD 9/10, will be looking for an 89 TC when the time is right

              "In order to know virtue, we must first acquaint ourselves with vice" Marquis de Sade

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                #22
                you got the egr system right. Crossover in the lower intake, up through the center and out to the spacer.
                86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                Originally posted by phayzer5
                I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                  #23
                  I THINK IT'S FIXED!

                  Took de Sade back to the Dr. today. The EGR passage in the spacer was all but completely plugged, as was part of the upper intake. After the roto rooter, and cleaning the IAC passages again, what a remarkable difference! Much smoother and more power throughout the whole rpm/speed range. Lesson learned? Don't ignore the EGR, and go hurt the "tech" that charged me to do the same thing 2 years ago (Mr. Ford said the spacer had never been off)
                  sigpic'86 GM LS sedan bone stock 113k triple dark sable, most of the bells and whistles, second owner. SOLD 9/10, will be looking for an 89 TC when the time is right

                  "In order to know virtue, we must first acquaint ourselves with vice" Marquis de Sade

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                    #24
                    The right doctor is all it takes. The EGR does make a difference when its enabled. The passages really do need to operate properly. If its disabled, it will run OK but with the passages clogged up and the valve operating, the ECM leans out the fuel mix and advances the timing figuring there is exhaust gas involved. When its not there, it ends up running too lean and with too much timing.
                    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                    Originally posted by phayzer5
                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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