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    CFI to carb question

    Ok, I know some of you have performed this swap. My question involves fuel delivery. I am considering a carb swap to a 4bbl in the future. I have the in tank fuel pump. How did you setup for low pressure delivery? Do you have to remove the high pressure fuel pump? Install a new pickup for a low pressure fuel pump? What works and part numbers or brands?

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    #2
    I just cut the power to the pump in the tank and installed a mechanical fuel pump on it.
    1984 CV tudor 351W, 4bbl, 5-speed best time in the 1/8 8.39 at 80 with 1.80 60ft time.
    2006 P71, 1988 Bronco II, 1986 Baby LTD(5.0 & T5 swap in progress), 1976 16' Hobie Cat, 12' AquaFinn
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      #3
      Originally posted by Pesty351 View Post
      I just cut the power to the pump in the tank and installed a mechanical fuel pump on it.
      There is a mounting location on mine but its sealed. Was yours? Will the cam have a contact point for a mechanical one?

      2011 Grand Marquis LS Ultimate Edition
      Dual Exhaust w/ AP XLerator mufflers and 3 1/2" tips, Eibach 1" rear sway bar, Pioneer Head unit and speakers, 17X8 Drag DR-72 wheels

      RIP 1984 2Dr Crown Vic "The Millennium Falcon"
      Carbed 5.0 HO w/nitrous , Performer RPM intake, GT40P heads, E303 cam, FRP Shorties, FRP 9mm plug wires, Off-Road H-pipe, Magnaflow round mufflers, 2000 rpm stall
      NA-15.78@91.21, 80hp shot-14.48@96.21

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        #4
        I dropeed tthe tank made a sump and installed a inline 4-6 psi fuel pump or was it 6 - 8... I cant member one of the two
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          #5
          I drilled out the hole for the pump. As far as the cam I put in a completely diffrent motor so I'm not sure.
          1984 CV tudor 351W, 4bbl, 5-speed best time in the 1/8 8.39 at 80 with 1.80 60ft time.
          2006 P71, 1988 Bronco II, 1986 Baby LTD(5.0 & T5 swap in progress), 1976 16' Hobie Cat, 12' AquaFinn
          http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2651997 UPDATED 20100826
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            #6
            How would you go about the lines? I know CFI has two lines. How would you hook it up to the manual pump?

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              #7
              I just hooked up a rubber line to the fuel line going up the pass. side and pluged the driver side line. Simple.
              1984 CV tudor 351W, 4bbl, 5-speed best time in the 1/8 8.39 at 80 with 1.80 60ft time.
              2006 P71, 1988 Bronco II, 1986 Baby LTD(5.0 & T5 swap in progress), 1976 16' Hobie Cat, 12' AquaFinn
              http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2651997 UPDATED 20100826
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                #8
                driver's side is the supply tho if I'm not mistaken. Passenger side line just dumps right into the top of the tank. Usually the one thats not used is just left unhooked or capped off. Nothing special involved.
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                5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

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                Originally posted by phayzer5
                I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                  #9
                  If you plan on keeping this car, and eventually modding it (bigger motor), I might consider pulling the fuel sending unit out of the tank, cutting the stock supply line out of the sending unit, and tacking in a 3/8th's hard line, being careful to bend the pickup end to match the original.

                  From that point, I'd run 3/8th's hard line up to a filter, and then an electric pump, and then to a line going to the carb, with a fuel pressure regulator on the other end, with a return line hooked back up to the original return line going back into the tank. I believe there are one or two guys that have done this here, but I can't recall who....

                  This is overkill for the existing engine, but if future plans call for something requiring more fuel, this just might work.

                  And of course, this is just a opinion, and should not be construed as the opinion of GMN management, or any of its subsidiary holding companies.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                    driver's side is the supply tho if I'm not mistaken. Passenger side line just dumps right into the top of the tank. Usually the one thats not used is just left unhooked or capped off. Nothing special involved.

                    On a cfi car the pass side is the feed.
                    1984 CV tudor 351W, 4bbl, 5-speed best time in the 1/8 8.39 at 80 with 1.80 60ft time.
                    2006 P71, 1988 Bronco II, 1986 Baby LTD(5.0 & T5 swap in progress), 1976 16' Hobie Cat, 12' AquaFinn
                    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2651997 UPDATED 20100826
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                      #11
                      errr, yeah duh. i should know that. passenger side is the supply on an EFI car too because thats where the fuel filter is. nevermind.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #12
                        Found a fuel pressure regulator from Holley with a bypass and will delivery in the 4-9 psi range, but is set at 7psi factory. It should work, but isnt cheap.

                        2011 Grand Marquis LS Ultimate Edition
                        Dual Exhaust w/ AP XLerator mufflers and 3 1/2" tips, Eibach 1" rear sway bar, Pioneer Head unit and speakers, 17X8 Drag DR-72 wheels

                        RIP 1984 2Dr Crown Vic "The Millennium Falcon"
                        Carbed 5.0 HO w/nitrous , Performer RPM intake, GT40P heads, E303 cam, FRP Shorties, FRP 9mm plug wires, Off-Road H-pipe, Magnaflow round mufflers, 2000 rpm stall
                        NA-15.78@91.21, 80hp shot-14.48@96.21

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                          #13
                          prob be easier and cheaper to just put a mechanical or an electric of the proper type and ditch the in-tank pump completely. Dropping the tank isn't that hard.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                            #14
                            Napa sells inline low-pressure electric fuel pumps if you want to go that route.

                            Alex.

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