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    #91
    Yeah. I pulled the vacuum from the MAP, but didn't actually unplug it. I'll grab a spare from the '89 at the Mustang shop when I get the ECM. Supposedly it ran great before he killed it.

    I'll get that ECM and the MAP.
    If neither fixes this thing, I'm tearing straight down to the timing chain.
    If the timing didn't jump, I'm taking it to a shop. I'm done. I'd have been waaay better off having it professionally diagnosed for $85 by now, but it's gone past wanting to figure it out myself. Now I just want it fixed. I have a ported Trick Flow R intake on its way to my house, along with a complete "factory CAI" set-up in the front seat, 3G swap kit on my kitchen table, cylinder heads on my F150 passenger floorboard, and a set of 2008 Mustang GT 18s coming this weekend. I thought this would be a speed bump on the road to having a fun car, but this is really killing me right now and I want it fixed.
    2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
    1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
    1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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      #92
      89 Mustangs don't have a MAP, they have a BAP. Same damn thing, but the BAP doesn't have a hose barb on it usually. If its got a hose nipple though, you're good to go.
      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

      Originally posted by phayzer5
      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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        #93
        No, he has a '89 CV that he took in as a C4C. Said I can have the ECM and anything else.
        2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
        1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
        1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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          #94
          Yeah smack the IAC a couple times to make sure its not that... if the IAC is stuck in the wrong place it wont start even if you have gas and spark.
          Pete ::::>>> resident LED addict and CFI defector LED bulb replacements
          'LTD HPP' 85 Vic (my rusty baby) '06 Honda Reflex 250cc 'Baileys' 91 Vic (faded cream puff) ClifFord 'ODB' 88 P72 (SOLD) '77 LTDII (RIP)
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            #95
            my town car refused to start in 2004 after i installed the new engine.......i replaced the tps and it fired right up......never had a problem with the orig motor not starting

            1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
            2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
            1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
            1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
            2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
            1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

            please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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              #96
              On my way home with MAP, ECM, and ignition coil from a known running 89 CV. It didn't die even after the liquid glass stuff was ran through it.

              Oh- and he gave me an aluminum driveshaft from a CVPI he had.
              2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
              1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
              1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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                #97
                sounds like a sweet deal man. Good luck.

                85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
                160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
                waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc

                06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)

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                  #98
                  It's alive!

                  The final straw was the ignition coil of all things. Thain was the only one pushing for it at any point, but I'd have sworn it had good spark... but sure enough, that's all I swapped tonight and it fired right up.

                  I still need to add antifreeze and establish the timing, now, but it's running! It smoked its ass off the whole time. I can only imagine how much gas is built up in the exhaust system right now.
                  2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
                  1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
                  1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by import convert View Post
                    have you checked to make sure the coil is working right

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                      :headbang: Now the real fun starts.
                      ~David~

                      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                      Originally posted by ootdega
                      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                        Originally posted by import convert View Post
                        I stand corrected, Sir!

                        In my defense, though, the spark really did look great! I only even swapped the coil because this one had a brass barb!
                        2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
                        1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
                        1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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                          glad to here woody nice to see you got the wagon running again

                          1989 mercury grand marquis gs / 2014 ford focus s daily driver
                          302 lopo with ho upper/ aod with trans go shift kit
                          k code 3:55 posi rear/big brake swap tow package car

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                            Glad you finally got it running... I bet that was a big relief.

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                              Originally posted by Freshmeat View Post
                              I stand corrected, Sir!

                              In my defense, though, the spark really did look great! I only even swapped the coil because this one had a brass barb!
                              understandable. its hard to believe that certain things could cause and engine to start. you end up thinking big expensive fixes instead of simple.

                              the big thing is to jump a plug gap you only need about 5k-7k volts which is easy for a coil. youd need to test it with a bigger gap to make sure its bad. most spark testers will have a 25k volt gap to make sure it puts out more then enough spark.

                              but all in all it runs and thats the important thing. good work

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