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    Hey folks...i got a MGM about 3 weeks ago. And i have been working my ass off to fix as much as i can and clean it up. Traded a 78 Cougar w/ Blown and Cracked 351W for this 85 MGM. Had been sitting under a tree for 8 months after getting ripped on a paint job. Leaves sitting on it, masking tape baking on it in the sun and a small mouse family living in the trunk along with 6 inches of water. the link below shows it from when i got it to the working progress trying to get it back to road worthy. And now it's the exhaust getting on my nerves. I want to run headers and some Delta Flow's 40 Series 1-chamber Mufflers getting dumped in front of the ass. So i can only afford to do this once and the time is kinda important. So can someone tell me EXACTLY wat i need to get, i use mainly Summit for parts. I will have the mufflers basically next weekend. Buddy of mine is going to run everything. Need to know about wat else i need.



    1985 Mercury Grand Marquis Sedan
    *A Family Affair*
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    Probably the best (easiest) header solution for a stock engine is to obtain a used pair of factory tubular manifolds from an '86-'93 Mustang, along with the stock Mustang H pipe. Should be able to get all of that for cheap to free from a nearby Mustanger, or check eBay, Craigslist, and consider posting a Wanted ad in parts classifieds at Corral.net and other Mustang forums.

    What exactly you need after that will be determined by what inlet size is on your mufflers. 2.25" midpipes will work well, and Walker PN 43281 (x2) fits very nicely after a Mustang crossover pipe and puts the mufflers right where you want them. I actually have a pair that I might not be reusing. If you must have 2.5", Maremont 339221 (IIRC) is your ticket.

    If you want to reuse your stock "downpipes", it's possible to obtain a ball flange adapter (I have the Walker part number posted somewhere) that allows you to bolt the old pipes up to the new headers (and any aftermarket '86-'93 5.0 Mustang shorty header). Just keep in mind that you may well have an oxygen sensor or two that you'll need to relocate from your old exhaust manifolds to the pipes; the factory Mustang pipes (and aftermarket bolt-in replacements) already have bungs to screw them into if you obtain new sensors with longer pigtails, but you'll need to obtain a bung or two and weld it to your pipes otherwise.
    Last edited by 1987cp; 09-25-2009, 10:11 PM.
    2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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      #3
      x2 on the used 87-93 stock mustang headers and stock mustang h-pipe. I used them and got great results outta that poor 5.slow
      1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.

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        #4
        Welcome noob.

        We have tons of info, lots of hot rodding here. And 99.9% of the stuff has been done, or asked about in another thread. Try searching around and you will find tons of info.
        Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

        Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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          #5
          Hey Guys

          Thanx tons for all the info. My Fiance and I are working on this together (her first anything auto) and we are trying to make it a nice dependable daily since she is 8 weeks pregnant and i only have a truck otherwise to drive. So i will be busy with this place for sure.
          1985 Mercury Grand Marquis Sedan
          *A Family Affair*
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            #6
            For a stock-motored daily driver, I'd forget the Rumblemasters and get some stock '95 Caprice mufflers (2.25" in, 2" out) and stock Vic 2" tailpipes. I have such a muffler/tailpipe set that will probably be going under a car with a slightly hotter than stock engine (maybe 200-210 HP) and have performed OK behind an engine making maybe 250hp (it seems happer with its current 2.5"/2.25" system). Plenty of flow without drilling the sound through the base of your skull constantly.
            2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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              #7
              A good performance exhaust for a panther, that is relatively quiet and all-purpose, is mustang shorties, mustang h-pipe, 2.25" dual mufflers, and 2" dual tailpipes. Keeps that torque and gives a nice sound without being annoying on the highway ;-)
              1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.

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                #8
                Still goin

                Well the reason i'm running the 1 chamber Flow's is because it was a thing a friend of mine did with his 86 MGM. He passed away due to a drunk driver. So most of the stuff i'm doing will be in a sort of memory of him. So sounds like some Mustang Shorties, H-Pipe w/ O2 Sensor's and then my mufflers. Sounds like a deal to me.
                1985 Mercury Grand Marquis Sedan
                *A Family Affair*
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                  #9
                  check for sale section i have headers up there with high flow cats
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                  1986 Crown Victoria 302 Cold Air,Mac Shorty headers, Full Dual Exhaust with Super Forty Flows, Wagon Suspension with a Full Sound System Replacement 1/4 time 17.486 @ 77.43mph

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                    #10
                    Dumps sound good, but i personally would not run them on a daily driver for safety reasons. You run the risk of exhaust getting trapped under the car and leaking inside, especially in traffic situations, or idling.

                    2011 Grand Marquis LS Ultimate Edition
                    Dual Exhaust w/ AP XLerator mufflers and 3 1/2" tips, Eibach 1" rear sway bar, Pioneer Head unit and speakers, 17X8 Drag DR-72 wheels

                    RIP 1984 2Dr Crown Vic "The Millennium Falcon"
                    Carbed 5.0 HO w/nitrous , Performer RPM intake, GT40P heads, E303 cam, FRP Shorties, FRP 9mm plug wires, Off-Road H-pipe, Magnaflow round mufflers, 2000 rpm stall
                    NA-15.78@91.21, 80hp shot-14.48@96.21

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                      #11
                      Yea

                      i have been told that by a few people. but honestly i usually only deal with sit still traffic once a year at the Grand National Rod Runs in Piegon Forge, TN. So i'm not too worried about it. if it becomes a problem i will extend them out behind the wheel at a slant exit.
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                      *A Family Affair*
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