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    Losing coolant.....somewhere.....

    Over the course of several weeks (a month I think) I lost about the amount of coolant the overflow resiviour holds. Now at first I thought nothing of it as I had the radiator/cooling system flushed last month. I figured there would be air working it's way out of the system.

    Well.....About 2 weeks ago I smell anti-freeze. It's faint, but I smell it.
    But not inside the car (thankfully).
    I smell it when I get out of the car. So I pop the hood, yep, that's where the smell is. Seems to be from the passenger side, towards the front.

    I check all the usual culprits......no wet spots anywhere.
    -No white smoke out back
    -hoses are good
    -intake is dry
    -not in the oil (I just changed it)

    While I had it up on ramps (to change the oil) I had it up to operating temp and was looking all around for leaks. I figure gravity is on my side and it has to come out somewhere....but nope.

    Then tuesday I check when the car is cold from sitting all night/morning. I see just a bit of wetness/dampness collected in the lower passenger corner of the radiator. That's the best I have to go on, but this could also have been condensation too.

    So, I drive to work and check that spot again when I get there.
    Nothing.....bone dry.

    I'm suspecting the radiator is going to need replacing.......but it's not leaking under pressure....so I'm not certain about this. I suppose the leak could be so small that it is evaporating from the heat?
    Last edited by andymac0035; 07-30-2009, 11:24 AM. Reason: typos......again
    Former panther owner
    1981 CV 351 4bbl
    1991 CV 302 EFI

    #2
    Did u cheak all the hose clamps to see it they are tight? my car had a slow leak due to loose clamps....
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      #3
      I haven't actually tried tighnening them, but there is no wetness around the ends either.

      I actually just went out to look. The lower corners of the radiator are damp/wet.....but It poored out last night and the car hasn't been driven today.
      So that could very well be rain water.
      Former panther owner
      1981 CV 351 4bbl
      1991 CV 302 EFI

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        #4
        It is possable the tanks are leaking. Right where they seal up to the core.
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          #5
          Might want to pressure test the system. Could be a very small leak that only happens under pressure, but since its hot the coolant just steams off instead of collecting. Pressure testing it cold might show the leak.
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            #6
            my resevoir has a tiny crack at the bottom of it. And the epoxy on radiator is cracked. it will leak in cold weather,but by winter i'll be getting a solid aluminum one. Passenger side?check the heater core,mine went out 2 weeks ago.
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              #7
              Do you have some white crusty buildup where the tanks meet the rad where/near it is damp? If you do, you have leaking seams.

              Alex.

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                #8
                prob the radiator......could be a loose petcock........i would fill the radiator and pressure test the system......you should be able to rent a pressure tester for free from autozone

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                  #9
                  Also, check that T on the heater hose, was my problem. It dripped on the hot manifold, so never saw a puddle...
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                    #10
                    Thanks thanks for all the suggestions.

                    The wet spot is indeed right were the tank meets the core. I don't believe there was any white crusty builup there though. It is a bit rusty looking.......but my color vision ain't the greatest for greens and yellows......and that could be dried up spilled coolant too.

                    Interesting about that "T", but wouldn't I see steam if something was burning off?
                    .....If I was right there looking and listening for it? It would be really nice if this was a cheap fix.

                    If not for that big AC condensor I'd be able to see things a lot better.....but I'm not ditching my AC just yet. I need to pull the fan shroud off and look at those lower corners a little better. As well as have a pressure check.

                    As for the heater core, wouldn't I have the typical puddle inside the car, as well as smell it inside the car?

                    Drove the car about 50 miles this afternoon. When I got back all the wetness had gone like usual. I check it again right before it got dark out and it was still dry.... It was still warm under the hood though.
                    Former panther owner
                    1981 CV 351 4bbl
                    1991 CV 302 EFI

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                      #11
                      my heater core just blew smoke out the vents,there was no puddle.(bypassed it for now) My '88 grand marquis' core just opened up like a grenade while driving!(that car is another story...) Defiantely pressure test it.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by andymac0035 View Post
                        Interesting about that "T", but wouldn't I see steam if something was burning off?
                        .....If I was right there looking and listening for it? It would be really nice if this was a cheap fix.
                        Mine was a slow drip hard to notice.
                        2000 Grand Marquis LS
                        2000 F150 XLT 6 inches of lift.
                        1987 Bill Blass Mark VII - Sold
                        1985 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park- SOLD. to a little old lady
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                          #13
                          Mine is at the right tank on the lower corner of the rad. Every now and again you can see it drip. Seems fairly common.
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                            #14
                            Well, looks like it's the seams. Makes sense....as it heats up they swell shut.

                            So Now I need to replace the radiator.
                            Looks straight forward enough...2 hoses and 2 tranny lines.

                            Do they make a larger/thicker 2 core direct fit radiator for my car?
                            All I see listed are stock replacements with no mention of a larger tow package model.

                            I know when the motor swap was done on my 81' they put a tow-package radiator on it and that was a lot thicker than what came out....(there were 3 listed for that car).....of course that car also took FOREVER to throw heat in the winter afterwards...But I think it had a 180 t-stat.
                            Former panther owner
                            1981 CV 351 4bbl
                            1991 CV 302 EFI

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                              #15
                              3 core radiator exists for an 85 police car. It needs one of the upper brackets modded a bit, and some of the rubber shaved on the lower support blocks but its not a big deal to install it. If you go with one of those, you need the 85 police upper radiator hose, its slightly different.
                              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                              Originally posted by phayzer5
                              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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