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    #61
    Baumannator, www.becontrols.com
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    1985 P43 Crown Vic, "Lightning Interceptor". Project is back on!
    1987 P72 Crown Vic, EFI 351W (not my conversion), rusty and crusty parts car.
    2006 Ford Fusion, 30MPG, premium sound, daily driver, 200K miles and still going.
    2011 Ford Fucus, 36MPG, Sync, wifey / baby mobile.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Heretic View Post
      I would go 4R70w, identical to the AOD, and even more electronics to play with
      This was my thought. Seeing as I wanted to use Holley/ BG carburetion, I wanted to eliminate the TV cable. The BEC controller is a nice setup, albeit it a little spendy (but worth it, IMO). The only unusual thing for a carbureted application was the need for a TPS. But, it isn't a big deal. Cowtown Cowboy (he's only on CVN, despite our efforts) uses a 4R70W behind his 408 (topped with an 850 Holley).
      **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
      **2006 MGM,"Ultimate": 4.6/ 2.73/ Dark Tint, Magnaflows, 19s, 115K Daily Driver
      **2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider
      **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck Duties

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        #63
        hmm longrod 351 instead of a supercharger

        1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
        2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
        1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
        1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
        2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
        1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

        please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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          #64
          Originally posted by P72Ford View Post
          This was my thought. Seeing as I wanted to use Holley/ BG carburetion, I wanted to eliminate the TV cable. The BEC controller is a nice setup, albeit it a little spendy (but worth it, IMO). The only unusual thing for a carbureted application was the need for a TPS. But, it isn't a big deal. Cowtown Cowboy (he's only on CVN, despite our efforts) uses a 4R70W behind his 408 (topped with an 850 Holley).
          hmm ill have to look into this, not having a tv cable would be convenient, and i need to buy a new tranny anyways. i know a friend of mine is putting about 300hp plus a 100 shot of nos into a basically stock 4r70w

          Originally posted by Lincolnmania View Post
          hmm longrod 351 instead of a supercharger

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            #65
            Originally posted by 70torino429 View Post

            Hey, you know, you could always build a 393 with two superchargers....I think that was covered somewhere in 'Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords', with the title of the article being 'Magazine Realism Redefined'....or you could follow Rick Dobbertin's 1980's J2000 build from Hot Rod Magazine, that had two turbos and a blower....

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              #66
              Originally posted by Pirate View Post
              Hey, you know, you could always build a 393 with two superchargers....I think that was covered somewhere in 'Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords', with the title of the article being 'Magazine Realism Redefined'....or you could follow Rick Dobbertin's 1980's J2000 build from Hot Rod Magazine, that had two turbos and a blower....
              funny...

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                #67
                Good lord...
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                1985 P43 Crown Vic, "Lightning Interceptor". Project is back on!
                1987 P72 Crown Vic, EFI 351W (not my conversion), rusty and crusty parts car.
                2006 Ford Fusion, 30MPG, premium sound, daily driver, 200K miles and still going.
                2011 Ford Fucus, 36MPG, Sync, wifey / baby mobile.

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                  #68
                  larrys just having a fit that im not building his motor of choice. god forbid i decide i want to do something like a lightning engine with a better cam and ported heads, and then later on if i really wanted more power id buy a used supercharger off someone on nloc. i assume in larrys mind that everyone on nloc running supercharged 351s is stupid as well, at least in his book. a longrod 351 just wouldnt be my motor of choice, i dont see why its such a big deal, i thought everyone was entitled to opinions but apparently im mistaken

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                    #69
                    ugha would you kids bench race nice like now

                    1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                    2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
                    1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
                    1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
                    2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
                    1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

                    please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                      #70
                      As for me, the fuel accumulator, pumps, and lower intake goes in THIS weekend or bust!!!!!!!! Oh, and the pass. fender too..
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                      1985 P43 Crown Vic, "Lightning Interceptor". Project is back on!
                      1987 P72 Crown Vic, EFI 351W (not my conversion), rusty and crusty parts car.
                      2006 Ford Fusion, 30MPG, premium sound, daily driver, 200K miles and still going.
                      2011 Ford Fucus, 36MPG, Sync, wifey / baby mobile.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by 70torino429 View Post
                        larrys just having a fit that im not building his motor of choice. god forbid i decide i want to do something like a lightning engine with a better cam and ported heads, and then later on if i really wanted more power id buy a used supercharger off someone on nloc. i assume in larrys mind that everyone on nloc running supercharged 351s is stupid as well, at least in his book. a longrod 351 just wouldnt be my motor of choice, i dont see why its such a big deal, i thought everyone was entitled to opinions but apparently im mistaken
                        You misunderstand me.

                        Everyone has their choice of engine. I honestly don't care whether or not you run my choice of motor. The information is there for anyone's use, and I didn't add an 'or else' to the end of it, just because there are differing points of view as to what works well, and what doesn't.
                        I simply mentioned it, but you gave a completely retarded reason for not wanting to use it (a simple 'thanks!', or 'not interested' would have sufficed, really....like I said, I simply tossed it up there, as it seemed to be a perfect fit for what you were trying to do), which makes me question whether or not you actually have any freaking clue as to how to put a motor together. Couple that with your throwing 'magazine' engine build ideas into the mix....with you having to spend almost tens of thousands of dollars to get such an engine (393 stroker, supercharged) simply to give some vague semblance of hooking up with whatever vehicle you install this monster into....and that's about the point I called 'bullshit', considering most real 393 engine builds create huge traction problems....and that's even with naturally aspirated combos.

                        However, please continue, it amuses me to watch you type.

                        I simply think you are a moron, irrespective of anything else that's mentioned.

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                          #72
                          thanks, i appreciate it . really. thanks for the clarification, as it seemed to me you took offense to all of my posts for some odd reason, but i must be wrong. btw, when i mentioned the 393 supercharged or not and all that it was just a thought, not a realistic one, just an idea, if i had that kind of money. your 351 long rod engine has merit, and maybe at some point in my life i will try it out.

                          as for the engine thats going to be going into my vic, ive already gathered most of my ideas and know what im going to do with it, thanks to those who helped with the ideas.

                          and thanks pirate, for the nice little typical insult you threw in at the end, just for the hell of it. every one of your posts amuses me as well.
                          Last edited by 70torino429; 05-14-2009, 05:23 PM.

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                            #73
                            Let's not forget that this has been in the works for over 2 years now... I picked up a complete Lightning engine, with the accessories, intakes, even the fuel rails and Lighting plaque, for $800 bux in '07. The guy was removing it to install a retardedly powerful 550+ cubic inch monster, and simply wanted the old motor gone from his garage. Not to mention the hours upon hours of research, time and money spent locating parts, and the actual work which I am doing now.

                            I understand the magazine thing, I have done my share of drooling over the 427 Winsors and twin turbio 383's. I simply cannot afford $10,000+ for just the motor, let alone the money I have already spent getting a carb'd car to be EFI happy, and with a 'big' build I still need the $$$ for a stout tranny to handle it.

                            Nothing wrong with getting ideas...
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                            1985 P43 Crown Vic, "Lightning Interceptor". Project is back on!
                            1987 P72 Crown Vic, EFI 351W (not my conversion), rusty and crusty parts car.
                            2006 Ford Fusion, 30MPG, premium sound, daily driver, 200K miles and still going.
                            2011 Ford Fucus, 36MPG, Sync, wifey / baby mobile.

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                              #74
                              Enough. This is the TECH forum. Take the shit to the BF.
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Grandpaslincoln View Post
                                Enough. This is the TECH forum. Take the shit to the BF.
                                believe me, i would if i could.

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