explorer accessories

[tim marks]

i was wondering if the accessories on the explorer motors bolt up the same as the cv's. im thinking of doing the explorer motor swap and i would like to be able to keep a serpentine setup, just not sure if its possible. also, how hard is it to convert to 134a from r12 on my 84 gmq

[Lincolnmania]

just use the box accys......sell the explorer stuff to somebody puttin a 302 in a ranger......i have done the explorer accy swap, but it was a stupid request and a pain in the ass to relocate all the accys......the explorer ps pump was making too much pressure and blowing steering box seals, finally fixed that with a 96 pi vic pressure spring......converting it to r134 isnt hard tim.......best way to do it is to change the accumulator, the orfice tube, all the o rings, vac it down, add 6-8 oz of ester oil, charge it with r134.....80% of the r12 charge.

[gadget73]

The wiring and plumbing involved in doing the Explorer stuff was a mess. The AC plumbing in particular was ugly looking, but it couldn't really be helped. I second keeping the stock accessories. Properly done, the stock compressor works fine with 134, and on an 84 you can get all the lines real cheap on ebay.

[tim marks]

sounds good. point well taken. i had to wonder though. my next thought is about the computer i would need. my mod list(wish list) is as follows

explorer 5.0 motor w/mass air
frpp f cam
timing advanced 4 degrees at the crank
t5
3.73 trak lok
sway bars
big brakes
rear disk
duals
headers
h pipe
and probably more.


what computer will i need to run the explorer 5.0 with mass air and the 5 speed, as well as what harness should i rob from the junkyard.

im wondering if a mustang computer will work or not

[mrltd]

another for the stock accesories...

My engine compartment is so pretty compared to an exploder accessorized panther.

[gadget73]

For wiring, I'd start by going over the two CFI to SEFI conversions posted here, basically you want an 86+ harness to get you to SEFI, and then from there its not a big change to add the mass air. ECM is pretty much whatever mass air Mustang ECM from 88-93 you can get your hands on, probably an A9P or A9L. I forget which is intended for manuals, but you can run an auto ECM in a stick with no issues.

Also not so sure I'd go F cam. There are other more modern options that may be better suited to something with the weight of a Vic. Maybe an XE264 or something like that would fit the bill a little better.

[tim marks]

do the later r134 a/c compressors off of the vics bolt right up to my 84?

[mrltd]

you dont need a "134" compressor. yours will work fine. all of us have 134 converted cars. It's some fittings and some oil along with the 134

[tim marks]

i understand i dont "need" a 134 specific compressor. my compressor is siezed, therefore it will not work at all. im contemplating using a compressor off of a newer car and wondering if its a bolt up situation or not. my reasoning for wanting a newer compressor is im figuring if it was designed to be used with 134a from the factory i would be better of than if it were designed for use with r12. i may be wrong though.......

[grandpaslincoln]

It doesn't matter. R12 compressors work fine with 134A.

[Lincolnmania]

4.6 compressor no fit mang

[Lincolnmania]

need a 82-88 compressor

[tim marks]

thanks scott. that was what i was looking for. 82-88 is the ticket. was 88 still r12?

[gadget73]

yes,no R134 till the 90s, 94 maybe?

[tim marks]

sounds good. i hope to find one at ez pull in a few weeks and get this thing cooling again. someone needs to buy this car before i do too much more work to it and have to keep it forever. lol