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    edlebrock intake manifold Q's

    i just bought a 2bbl edlebrock manifold w/ egr spacer. (cool stuff but pricey) im slowly trying to upgrade for my cfi 85 cv to a cfi ho. i know i need e7 heads, harness, and cams ect.. i wanted to know how much hp does my cfi lopo motor aready have? how much hp could the edlebrock intake bring in a lopo w/out ho upgrades.
    sorry for the dumb q's but im addicted to this cfi stuff for now. untill atleast i can afford a 6 grand 302/375hp efi cobra motor.

    thanks guys in advance
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    the 85 cf1 ho had e5 heads and was rated 180hp/280 ft lbs torque that edlelbrock intake might give you 10-15 hp over the stock intake
    did you find a 85 mark7 lsc cfi unit and ecm yet? you will need the 85 ho cam too, but i always suggest buying a new flat tappet cam and lifters

    1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
    2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
    1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
    1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
    2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
    1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

    please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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      the freaking CFI's had more horse power than the EFI's???!!?!?
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        #4
        Originally posted by Lincolnmania View Post
        the 85 cf1 ho had e5 heads and was rated 180hp/280 ft lbs torque that edlelbrock intake might give you 10-15 hp over the stock intake
        did you find a 85 mark7 lsc cfi unit and ecm yet? you will need the 85 ho cam too, but i always suggest buying a new flat tappet cam and lifters
        not yet, im still looking in the junkyards for a mark7 cfi unit and ecm. san diego doesn't have many mark7s. i might have to go junkyards up north near L.A. or just simple e-bay.
        *stupid q
        does summit have 85 mark7 lsc cfi unit and ecm?
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          #5
          Originally posted by Leo View Post
          not yet, im still looking in the junkyards for a mark7 cfi unit and ecm. san diego doesn't have many mark7s. i might have to go junkyards up north near L.A. or just simple e-bay.
          *stupid q
          does summit have 85 mark7 lsc cfi unit and ecm?
          no these must be sourced used

          1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
          2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
          1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
          1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
          2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
          1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

          please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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            Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
            the freaking CFI's had more horse power than the EFI's???!!?!?
            HO CFI, yes. non-HO CFI was I think 155 hp.
            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

            Originally posted by phayzer5
            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

            Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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              Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
              HO CFI, yes. non-HO CFI was I think 155 hp.
              More like 135, I think. Stock EFI single in 91 was 150, so I sincerely doubt that the cfi made more.
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              93 F-150 XLT, 302, ZF 5-spd from 1-ton, 4wd.
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                #8
                the 85 cfi non ho cars put out 155 hp.

                1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
                1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
                1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
                2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
                1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

                please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                  Originally posted by 91waggin View Post
                  More like 135, I think. Stock EFI single in 91 was 150, so I sincerely doubt that the cfi made more.
                  Originally posted by Lincolnmania View Post
                  the 85 cfi non ho cars put out 155 hp.
                  yup, depends on the year. 85 had better heads. 84 was I think 140, 80-83 was 130 or 135. Torque production on the other hand, the SEFI motors make more. I don't have figures, but if you've ever driven a properly running 85, then get into a properly running 86+ you can feel it. The torque figures are more useful than horsepower numbers to be honest. HP was a concept developed 175 years ago to sell steam engines. Its just a math function of torque and RPM so you may as well just use those figures directly
                  Last edited by gadget73; 04-26-2009, 10:08 AM.
                  86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                  5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                  91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                  1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                  Originally posted by phayzer5
                  I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                  Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                    #10
                    I think i found a web site that has mark 7 ecu. im not sure about a lsc cfi unit though... but tell what you guys think.

                    also what is the difference between a vin M and a vin F?!

                    http://www.racepages.com/products/index.php?D=lincoln+mark+vii&Ntt=lincoln+mark+vii&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Main&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&N=11921+4294964473+4294967187+11949&Nty=1


                    thanks in advance
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                      I found this as well
                      A1 Cardone Electronic Control Unit
                      1985 Lincoln Mark VIIA1 CARDONE ENGINE CONTROL COMPUTER, REMANUFACTURED

                      FITS (Engine/Chassis) 1985 Lincoln Mark VII $125.87

                      1985: LSC; 8Cyl 5.0L GAS, FI, VIN "M";

                      am i looking for a ecm that has LSC on it ?! or it another component all together ?!

                      sorry for the dumb q's but i just want to make sure i get the right parts,

                      Leo
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                        #12
                        Vin code M is the 85 LSC with the HO motor. The ECM itself won't say LSC on it.

                        Vin F is the non-HO motor, should be what you have now.
                        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                        Originally posted by phayzer5
                        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                        Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                          #13
                          good, good... then i found one of the right parts im looking for, vin "m"...
                          do i 'need a lsc cfi unit' or could i just upgrade the one i have already? found a junk yard with lsc cfi. no good. though.... front end smashed to hell...
                          also are these the two essential components + cams, heads, for the Ho upgrade?! or is there alot more ?!

                          thanks
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                            I think the heads may actually be the same for HO and non-HO in 1985. You can swap the heads for something better, but unless you're going to say a GT40 type, I doubt you'll notice much difference. There isn't a lot of change between the E5 (1985) head and the E7 (1987 truck and HO) head.
                            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                            Originally posted by phayzer5
                            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                            Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                              #15
                              :confused: Do i 'need a lsc cfi unit' from a lincoln mark 7 or could i just upgrade the lopo cfi unit?!
                              stupid q
                              whats the difference between a lopo cfi unit and a lsc unit obviously the lsc is an ho but what components does the ho have that the lopo doesnt have
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