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    my upper explorer intake has an egr hole and my lower one dosent can i still use my egr.

    #2
    If the lower doesn't have the EGR hole, you can't use it with your EGR. But the good news is you just need to find a lower GT-40 and you're good to go. Or you can trick the computer to thinking the EGR is there and functioning (1987LTDMasta did it on his car at one point I think).
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      #3
      can i drill hole in lower intake for egr

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        #4
        I doubt it. There's more to the internal EGR than just that one hole. The casting may be opened up for it under where the hole has been filled, but I doubt it.

        Does the bottom side of your lower look like the one below (a real GT-40)?
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          #5
          this what i have should of asked before i put all this work into manifolds

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            #6
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              #7
              You can still use your manifolds and it wont hurt anything as far as i know.. Your egr will be non functional but who cares.
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                #8
                ir you have no sniffer tests dont worry about it - leave the egr installed as a visual dummy
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                  #9
                  properly working EGR has absolutely NO effect on engine performance.
                  Disabling the EGR with out properly altering the ECM tune will cause a lean fuel condition.

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                    #10
                    You're missing the baffle in those pics, I hope you put one back on or it's gonna dump/suck a lot of oil. Also, the T-stat housing on a panther is 45* not 90, so that one won't work too well.
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                      #11
                      You can simply disconnect the vacuum line to the EGR valve. It will keep it from opening, thus preventing the ECM from leaning things out too much. If the vacuum line is there and the valve is opening without any exhaust source, it will go lean at cruise. The EGR eliminator plug is nothing more than a resistor that has the value of a closed EGR valve. It will produce a code, 33 if I'm not mistaken.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 88grandmarq View Post
                        properly working EGR has absolutely NO effect on engine performance.
                        Disabling the EGR with out properly altering the ECM tune will cause a lean fuel condition.

                        read here; http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthread.php?t=2079
                        Improper disabling will not cause a lean condition it will cause the timing to over advance at cruse speeds and under very light load. To disable its mearly a matter of leaving the EGR valve in place the electrical connector plugged in but plug the vacuum line to the valve. The EGR position sensor will then send the signal the EGR is closed and wont advance the timing. Of course some fuel economy will be lost with no EGR.
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                          #13
                          well the j302 heads i have dont have a passage for egr my main concern is
                          with the dyno inspection i have to take. if no egr will i fail is there any way i
                          could pass with no egr
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by rellik god View Post
                            well the j302 heads i have dont have a passage for egr my main concern is
                            with the dyno inspection i have to take. if no egr will i fail is there any way i
                            could pass with no egr
                            good job putting the baffle back on

                            Unfortunately I dont think you would pass because they test the valves operation with vacuum.
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                              #15
                              Use an egr valve off a 94-95 Mustang or something else that is designed for an external EGR feed, and have a header modified to provide the feed. Thats about the only way I can think of for that to work. Without working EGR, you're likely going to fail for NOx emissions.
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