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    EGR Eliminator Plate Question

    Hello all! Been a little while. I got the 302 out of the wagon and am SLOWLY rebuilding it. Got a 6 month old and another on the way, so the going is slow, and the budget is tight.

    Onto the question! I picked up an HO upper (and lower intake). The upper intake did not come with an EGR spacer plate. Originally I was gonna re-use the original one, but diameter is much smaller, so no go. Looks to me like I have 2 options.
    1. Source an HO EGR spacer plate (anybody happen to have one of these laying around?
    2. EGR Eliminator Plate such as: http://www.accufabracing.com/throttle_bodies.htm#EGR (the second one without the water passages).

    I realize that with the EGR eliminator plate i'll also need the jumper to fool the computer into thinking the EGR is there and permenently in the closed position.

    I'm at work right now so please forgive my questions but I'd like to get something figured out today.

    Question 1: Will my throttle cable bracket bolt up to the EGR eliminator plate? I thought my bracket bolted in perpendicular to the EGR spacer and every eliminator plate i find shows bolt holes parallel to the EGR spacer. Maybe my mind is just going...

    Question 2: Anybody know what diameter I should run for a factory HO throttle body and upper intake?

    Question 3: (not critical, but while i'm here) Bolt size required to thread into the upper intake and hold on the throttle body and EGR spacer?

    Feel free to provide additional suggestions on how to get this sucker together reliably and cheaply and still have provisions for mounting my throttle cables. Thanks!
    1986 Ford Contry Squire: HO engine swap, 3G alternator, 3.73 gears, rear air springs, Class III 8000 lb hitch... potential tow rig for my Blazer trail toy??
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    1: No, your bracketry will not bolt up to that plate.
    2: 60mm is the stock throttle body and upper intake opening size.
    3: Don't know.

    What you need to do is take your stock EGR spacer and have it bored out at a machine shop. Lots of guys here do it. They can safely go to 63mm. There may be a few available here on the board- check with Scott (lincolnmania) and also make a post in the Want To Buy section.

    It's way too much of a pain in the ass to adapt everything to fit a Mustang EGR spacer or eliminator and you'll end up spending just as much to get it to fit, then spend it again when you give up and have a stock spacer bored out.

    The other option would be to find a Lightning EGR spacer, but those are rare.
    2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
    1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
    1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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      #3
      thanks for the reply. i can not get the factory EGR spacer off. EVERYTHING is corroded and welded together. i broke 2 screwdrivers just trying to get the throttle body off, there isn't any way that egr spacer is coming off without breaking it.

      which leaves making my throttle bracket fit on the mustang delete plate or buying another EGR spacer, and paying somebody to bore it out. my instinct is that it'll cost more for me to buy a used EGR spacer and pay a machine shop to bore it out than the delete plate will cost me.... plus some of my time to make my own throttle cable bracket...

      also thinking about just making my own delete plate...
      1986 Ford Contry Squire: HO engine swap, 3G alternator, 3.73 gears, rear air springs, Class III 8000 lb hitch... potential tow rig for my Blazer trail toy??

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        #4
        Soak it with some WD40 it'll loosen it up evenutally.
        Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

        Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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          #5
          mustang egr spacers and delete plates will not fit.....there are no provisions for the throttle and tv cable bracket.....i dont have any bored lopo spacers ready at the moment......might be able to drop some off at the machine shop if you arent in a huge rush mang

          1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
          2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
          1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
          1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
          2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
          1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

          please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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            #6
            hey thanks for everyone's help! exactly why i posted this question to get some input. after some SERIOUS frustration last night with a hammer and 3 different screwdrivers (and penetrating oil) i managed to get the original EGR spacer off. holy hell was that thing on there. my arm is sore from swinging the hammer so much.

            prior to posting up i'd never considered boring the original spacer, but i'll drop it off this week at the machine shop. another month or so and hopefully i'll have some picture of installed and running down the road. i'm looking at 60mm yes / no? tape measurement isn't that accurate and mis-placed my calipers for the time being.
            Last edited by JD's Toy; 09-17-2008, 09:18 AM.
            1986 Ford Contry Squire: HO engine swap, 3G alternator, 3.73 gears, rear air springs, Class III 8000 lb hitch... potential tow rig for my Blazer trail toy??

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              #7
              60mm is what you want, yes. You are planning to install a HO throttle body too, yes?
              2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
              1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
              1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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                #8
                yip. got the HO throttle body and upper intake. was just missing the piece between em (brain fart i guess, never thought about it till recently). thanks!

                rotating assembly has been together for weeks, just haven't put time into putting the rest of it together. getting there though...
                1986 Ford Contry Squire: HO engine swap, 3G alternator, 3.73 gears, rear air springs, Class III 8000 lb hitch... potential tow rig for my Blazer trail toy??

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                  #9
                  You're going to need to take the throttle lever off your stock throttle body and switch it to the Mustang throttle body. It requires a bit of grinding at the bottom of it then some effort to pry it off the shaft, but with a little concentration it can be done in about five minutes. I always weld mine back on; not sure how the others do it... but you'll need to switch that lever for the Mustang throttle body to work.
                  2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
                  1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
                  1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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                    #10
                    NO you want it 63 mm

                    1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                    2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
                    1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
                    1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
                    2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
                    1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

                    please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                      #11
                      Go to the junkyard and grab another EGR Spacer, and get it bored out to 60mm Or whatever is preferred here on this site.

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                        #12
                        you'd want to match the bore size of the HO throttle body. The plate is 60mm, but the body itself is closer to 62-63mm.
                        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                        Originally posted by phayzer5
                        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                          #13
                          aight boys, thanks for the info. One of these day's it'll all be back together!
                          1986 Ford Contry Squire: HO engine swap, 3G alternator, 3.73 gears, rear air springs, Class III 8000 lb hitch... potential tow rig for my Blazer trail toy??

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