5 speed auto just for fun

[82LTDQS]

Does any one know if the new 5 speed auto trans can be retro-fitted with an old school 302's in a panther (box or what ever???) My friend has a new mustang with the 5 speed auto and the shift points are soooo nice. I also drove a V6 mustang with that tranny and it gives it balls. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd are so close, it keeps the engine in the power band. Im asking this for fun. I dont intend on spending the $$ or attempting this. just curious.

[82LTDQS]

Ok

Im not gona buy a new mustang GT. I have VOWED to never buy a new car. I like my old one. BUT,,,,,,,,,,,,,Im gona build a bad ass 302 and I want something neat behind it. Listen to the shifts in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XoyrUZy9XA

[mrltd]

Anything can be done with enough money.

A wide ratio AOD does wonders for our cars.

[82LTDQS]

Yeah

I mean easily. Like for the price of the tranny. I dont care for wide ratio trannys. Does anyone know if they just bolt in?

[gadget73]

doubt it. the modular motor has a different bellhouse pattern than the windsor motor.

[Heretic]

Well, if the V6 Stang engine shares a Winsor bolt pattern, you can physically bolt it up... Not sure which motor the 6's are using these days... The 4.6 Stang is out for sure though. Then it would be a matter of controlling it, either by piggy-backing the stang ECM somehow, getting a tranny controller similar to a Baumannator, or designing and implementing your own method of shift control.

[interceptor1985]

even if one can be bolted up and mounted and then controlled some how would it even hold up to the V8 with mild mods in a BIG CAR?

[mrltd]

no it wont bolt up. Hence my money comment. And on top of all of that the trans is completely computer controlled so youd need a thousand dollar(if they made one for that trans yet) or more standalone ecu JUST for the trans.

[82LTDQS]

Cool

Yeah, I figuered it would be expensive and dificult. I thought it was a fun little topic to ask about. I would take a 5 speed manual anyways, but you have to admit that it sounds pretty nice for an automatic.

[87DeuceVic]

That vid was great, everyone goes on and on about how sticks are better then autos. With an auto you dont have to let off the gas to shift and dont need to worry about missing shift or shit like that. My pops old 1970 Coronet is an auto and he ran 11's in the quarter with a mild 383 in it.

Anyways yea I see what your sayin, the shift point are really well placed, sounds really smooth.

[fordktpjoe]

If money was no object, I'd figure out how to put a CVT in mine!

[grandpaslincoln]

That vid was great, everyone goes on and on about how sticks are better then autos. With an auto you dont have to let off the gas to shift and dont need to worry about missing shift or shit like that. My pops old 1970 Coronet is an auto and he ran 11's in the quarter with a mild 383 in it.

Anyways yea I see what your sayin, the shift point are really well placed, sounds really smooth.

Auto's eat more horsepower than manuals, autos typically get a little less MPG as well. Don't necessarily have to let off the gas to shift a manual either, like if you are power shifting. As for missing shifts, well.......some people just don't know how to shift a manual transmission.

[gadget73]

Typically you'll get better 1/4 mile speeds with an auto, especially if you

a) can't drive

or

b) are going stupidly fast already

Autos have a far far more consistant shift than a manual so its easier to get consistant runs out of one. They're probably better for bracket racing for this reason. Manuals tend to be lighter and eat less power though, so for street usage they are a bit sportier and easier on fuel.

[ss_mini14]

autos are less likely to brake drivetrain parts while shifting and launching under high loads than a manual, though it can happen...

[P72Ford]

The last time I went to the drag strip, there were very few people who could effectively shift a manual transmission. I watched cars run all day, from 10am to 9pm, and the automatic cars were dominant, by and large.

New Mustangs; 14.5+ second timeslips all around, and there were GT500's there. Traction (wrong tire choice), and inability to shift (compounded by poor traction) did them in.

There were a few guys who were pretty damn awesome with their cars though. A '70 Mustang w/ 351 and 4 speed running in the fast class; low 12's, and his shifting was smooth. There was a guy with an early 70's Charger with the same MO. But the best one? A '65 GTO that ripped off 9.60's. He broke it on his third pass...

The manual is definitely harder at launches, and moreso with a heavy car.