not really, you might be able to get away with a little more cam. My car did OK with the cam I have and an untunes SD computer.
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ok, then I will do that until I can get her chipped. Im thinking of going with this piston/ring combo from summit:
and a decent cam. I will be running crane 1.7 roller rockers so I think an E or F cam at the most will suffice.
Whats a good place to get a stall converter from, and how much should one cost thats not junk?1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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I want 300 RWHP, will this do it? I figure I might as well go all out while I got the motor out, and its not like I can afford to drive this gas eater everyday anyways, I have a little integra for that.1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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The ford letter cams are old news. So many better choices...
What heads are you planning on using? For what you plan on spending on E7s and porting you could probably get better heads.
Mercracer and Turbo are the better ones to answer the HP Q's.....Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
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Well as of right now, I have all these go-go parts in my garage....
-ported E7's that flow a few cc's less than trick flow twisted wedge heads
-Gt40 lower and exploder upper intake w 1" spacer
-65mm tb
-stock mustang cam
-1.7 RR
With the right cam im sure those heads could make 300hp, just picking the cam is the tough part. something like .500-.530 lift with a duration in the 270-280 range seems to be about right, but im not an expert.
I think this cam would be perfect, and I could keep my stock stall converter, because it makes power in the 2000-5500 range and has a lower duration than most of the letter cams. .499 lift is also perfect for what im going for, I think.
1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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Flow is rated in CFM, not CC's
CC is the volume of the runners or combustion chambers...
That TFS cam seems a bit big. Look at the operating range..... 2000-5000rpm. Not much for low end...
this is mine. I actually would like a little more low end...
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The XE258 is SD compatible I believe. Should run strong with un-tuned stock ECM. They're really torquey and have a lot of lift too.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
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Doh, I should be more careful, if im to be an engineer someday. I just want to be able to keep my stock torque converter, because them things are expensive.Originally posted by mrltd View Post1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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Even a stock HO cam really needs a higher stall converter.
The XE258 is SD compatable, even my 264 did OK with SD. I still think explorer cam wold be the best.Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
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I want a straight line performance cam, for stoplight drags and 1/4 miles. So, for that goal, wouldn't I need a bigger cam with more duration? I'm not concerned with low end as much because its not a DD or a autox'r. I may need some better heads...1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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Not really....
I'm running a XE264 cam. it's 264/270 and 512/512. With 3.73's, a 2400 stall converter, and wide ratio the car will barely squeek the tires on a launch. And XE258 would work well or a explorer cam works well in a towncar.
You NEED low end or you will need a lot more modifications than you want to do. A huge cam and stock converter won't accelerate from a stop very well. My cam and setup really needs MORE stall than the 2400 I'm currently runniing and could even benifit from 4.10's if I wanted to drag race or make it a bit more fun off the line. And that's with a wide ratio AOD which has lower gearing than a stock AOD.
If you want to build a quick car, build the drivetrain. 4.10s or 4.30's, wide ratio AOD, a high stall converter, the start messing with the motor. I beat the crap out of a caprice wit ha 350hp chevy crate motor at the dragstrip with my lopo powered 87 vic.... His whole drivetrain was stock, I had gears, stall converter, built AOD.... didn't beat him by much, but that's 150hp vs 350hp!Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
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explorer cam and a wide ratio with a supercoupe convertor is a wicked combo in a towny
1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)
please be patient, rebuilding an empire!
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Is this the XE258? http://store.summitracing.com/partde...8&autoview=sku
Also does anyone have a tip on where I get a converter for a good price? Does anyone have a supercoupe converter for sale? Or an explorer cam?1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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3.73s with a wide ratio is all you need although 4.10s may help. 4.30s would hurt you instead of help. A 2400-3400 converter will fit the bill.... Your XE264 is not much of a step above a HO camshaft. Spinning the tires is not a measure of horsepower although something may be wrong with your setup if you can not do a burnout with a 2400 stall converter.Originally posted by mrltd View PostComment
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