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    351W Redline

    Ok I tried searching for this but nothing seems to come up, this has just been bothering me haha. I have an aftermarket Tach which you can set the redline to, however i have on clue as to what the redline is on my 351 Windsor. I know at WOT it shifts around 4000-5000 RPM. Does anyone know what the real redline for my engine is? Thanks
    -Phil

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    +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

    +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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    There is no redline on a stock Panther 351. If you just floored it in neutral it would rev until your valves started to float. You're between 4-5k? That shifts pretty high. My 351 stock was never over 3500 RPM unless I held a gear. The car didn't make any power over that point stock anyhow. Due to the 351 having oversize main bearings, and non-forged internals, it is said to keep it under 6000 RPM. I have my HI-6 set at 5500 RPM. You can see my tach, with the redline indicator set to 5k, here:

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      #3
      Oh wow I did not know that, thanks for all the info, and I thought my car shifted in a low RPM! Ok then I guess I'll set my marker to around 5K then, I did have it at 6.
      -Phil

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      +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

      +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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        #4
        It should hold 7 or so. My bronco is factory set at 5500.
        1989 Grand Marquis LS
        flat black, 650 double pumper, random cam, hei, stealth intake, Police front springs, Wagon rear, Police rear bar, wagon front ,exploder wheels, 205/60-15 fronts 275/60-15 rears, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" offroad x pipe, Eclipse front bucket seats, Custom floor shifter, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft and daily driven. 16.77@83mph

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          #5
          With that VV if it spins to 5,000 you're doing something. Won't make power that high anyway. Tiny carb and terrible intake just won't let it breathe.
          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

          Originally posted by phayzer5
          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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            #6
            Originally posted by torquelover View Post
            There is no redline on a stock Panther 351. If you just floored it in neutral it would rev until your valves started to float. You're between 4-5k? That shifts pretty high. My 351 stock was never over 3500 RPM unless I held a gear. The car didn't make any power over that point stock anyhow. Due to the 351 having oversize main bearings, and non-forged internals, it is said to keep it under 6000 RPM. I have my HI-6 set at 5500 RPM. You can see my tach, with the redline indicator set to 5k, here:
            Wow...that wasn't WOT, was it?

            2001 Ford Crown Victoria P71 - "The Fire Engine"
            1985 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series
            But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

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              #7
              Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
              With that VV if it spins to 5,000 you're doing something. Won't make power that high anyway. Tiny carb and terrible intake just won't let it breathe.
              Yeah I know, but Ill keep my VV anyway cause I'm putting my car in some shows so I'm trying to keep it as original as possible, however if I somehow find a really cheap 4 barrel+intake getup i may be tempted.
              -Phil

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              +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

              +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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                #8
                Originally posted by Nathan in MN View Post
                Wow...that wasn't WOT, was it?
                According to the vid description:

                Light accel from tollway to 65 MPH.
                Uh oh, was it horribly slow to you?

                That was just (most mangs) normal acceleration. No secondary action and it went from 2nd to 4th in a heartbeat. There was construction on the tollway and we went from 5 lanes to 1 within a few hundred feet. There were also metal plates on the highway, which you can hear me slam into toward the end of the vid. My buddy Michael
                also made a weird alien like sound as the window was rolling up. Creepy. Did you hear that, too?

                The car WOT with the windows down is a different animal. We filmed the "Lower Wacker Drive" vid the same night, LOL. In the vid, from 5 MPH to about 60MPH only took about 7 seconds. It would still pull hard on a stock box even at part throttle, I would assume. If you have not seen the POS immortalized on video, go here:



                The car seems to gather speed in a hurry without drama (on the inside, at least) unfortunately. It makes for a boring drive. Hopefully 1987cp and LtdMasta can confirm this. Too bad Epi didn't have a video camera when we cruised Chicago.

                Unfortunately, the car is too damn slow. After I find some good heads, it's time for round 2. Someone on this board has actually held the cam for it :smirk:.

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                  #9
                  HAHA i love that video! I thought you were flooring it coming up to that white car and then when you REALLY hit the gas I was like oh shit. Yeah thats my story
                  -Phil

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                  +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

                  +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brown_Muscle View Post
                    HAHA i love that video! I thought you were flooring it coming up to that white car and then when you REALLY hit the gas I was like oh shit. Yeah thats my story
                    I think the guy in the white car was trying to get away from us, LOL. He was hauling ass compared to what everyone else was doing. I had to gun it to pass him. How I've never been arrested driving that thing, I'll never know. I need some sort of push bar like yours. Too bad you're not local, as it would be fun to cruise together. How many miles do you have on your car? The paint and chrome look fantastic.

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                      #11
                      Thanks yeah that would be intense, its got around 111K currently, thats about 1000 miles ive put on it since i got it in september, and thats including the 200 mile drive from maryland to NJ! How many miles you got on yours? The only problem is my front bumper it has some rust on the top...I like the push bumper but i probobly wouldn't have put it on if my front bumper was perfect...opps were getting a little off topic in this thread.
                      -Phil

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                      +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

                      +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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                        #12
                        Back on topic, when you get a vid of the exhaust, also do an in-car one of the engine at 5k+ winding out. My car stock didn't sound too healthy at that speed.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by torquelover View Post
                          Uh oh, was it horribly slow to you?
                          No, no, not that...just between this comment:

                          Originally posted by torquelover
                          My 351 stock was never over 3500 RPM unless I held a gear.
                          ...and the fact that in the video it only got to about 3 grand or 3500...I wasn't sure.

                          2001 Ford Crown Victoria P71 - "The Fire Engine"
                          1985 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series
                          But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by torquelover View Post
                            Back on topic, when you get a vid of the exhaust, also do an in-car one of the engine at 5k+ winding out. My car stock didn't sound too healthy at that speed.
                            Ok sure thing, I really rarely floor it in that car but I doubt it'll get to 5K or more haha more like 4K to 4500, but ill give it a shot it may be a while though (I only drive the car on the weekends, I don't really need it during the week)
                            -Phil

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                            +1982 Ford LTD-S Police Car. Built 351w, Trickflow 11R 190 Heads, Holley Sniper EFI, RPM Intake+ Hyperspark dizzy, WR-AOD, Full exhaust headers to tails. 3.27 Trac-Lok Rear. Aluminum Police Driveshaft. Speedway Springs+Bilstein Shocks, Intermediate Brakes, HPP Steering Box.

                            +2003 Acura CL Type S 6-speed

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nathan in MN View Post
                              No, no, not that...just between this comment:



                              ...and the fact that in the video it only got to about 3 grand or 3500...I wasn't sure.
                              Oh I see. That vid was from this past summer, and the car hasn't been stock since 1998. If I were to gun it in the video you would see a shift around 5k. With the TV cable adjusted to spec, it wants to shift around 6k, but the rev limiter is set to 5.5k and the motor is on it's face after 4k anyway :nonono:.

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