NOS on MAGNA?

[Mr. Land Yacht]

I'm kicking around the idea...may not actually do it...but I would like to be as informed as possible about it.

my questions are...

when would I click it in when I'm going down the dragstrip?
in 1st gear? 2nd gear? 3rd gear?
after a certain RPM?
what would I need to hook it up for a Carbed application?
what kind of price are we looking at for installation and price of NOS tanks?

I wouldn't need a real high shot of it...considering my HP should be around 400 to begin with...another 75 or so would make a huge difference.
I figure since my entire bottom end is being rebuild with those KB pistons, it would be tough enough to take the occasional shot of NOS on the track...
yes/no?

[mrltd]

Naaaaawwwwwwsss

It'll damage the intake if you use too much.

LOL...

Your gonna neeed to spend some serious $$ on your trans if you plan on running N20 on top of all that other crap. The Torque converter needs to have antiballoning plates, probably will have to get a hardened input shaft, and lose the lockup.

As for when you "click it" (click it or ticket!) All depends on what your driveline and suspension can take.

You will also need a decent elctric fuel pump, all new fuel lines from the tank forward, a regulator, n20 pressure gauge, a wideband A/F would be a good idea. But, you should already have most of that, because a stock fuel system in a crown vic cannot support that kind of HP anyway.
For a carbed setup, buy the carb application kit!

[DuceAnAHalf]

You want to activate it above 3000 rpms and only at WOT. Any less and you run the risk of a nasty explosion.

To be safe you would want to run both a window switch and a WOT switch.

Traction will dictate how early you can spray, mine spins if I spray less than about 35-40' feet out

[DuceAnAHalf]

Also the NOS brand carb kit runs about 350, then you are looking at around 100 for a window switch. The price of nitrous varies, I pay $2.50 per pound, in California they pay well over $4

[Mr. Land Yacht]

but then I gotta get a different converter, input shaft, etc?
ok..nvrmind then...

but thanks for the info!

[mrltd]

You don't HAVE to, but your gonna be pushing the limits of the AOD...

And remember, NOS is a brand name, N20 is Nitrous. Only ricers call it NOS :P

[Mr. Land Yacht]

ah true that...
well, I dunno...I would ONLY use it at the dragstrip...maybe I should still look into it....
so, total cost?
~$500 + cost of N2O?

links for this stuff?

[Mercmarquis]

Are those KB pistons hypers or forged..? If they are hypers be carefull, alot of guys run em but you can run into a heap of trouble if it detonates. If your only looking for like a 50 or 75, you should be ok. just another thing to keep in mind.

[Mr. Land Yacht]

yea, they're Hypers...yea, I would only go to 75 shot max...and I wouldn't do it often at all...
meh, this is prolyl just something i'll consider next year.
after I get tired of MAGNA being fast...if I want it lightning fast.

[N A]

Try it!!!

[gadget73]

Personally I find n2o to be borderline useless, but thats just me. OK, useful on the drag strip, but what else do you do with it really? The whole idea of running out of power when the bottle is empty, or the risk of having the engine explode just turns me off the whole thing. I'd really rather do forced induction if I wanted a power adder. A small turbo or super on my car would be fun.

[murphmobile2]

Magna + NOS + current motor = BOOM!!

...lol

[88Vic]

Magna + NOS + current motor = BOOM!!

...lol

Your math skills amaze me.

[DuceAnAHalf]

Personally I find n2o to be borderline useless, but thats just me. OK, useful on the drag strip, but what else do you do with it really? The whole idea of running out of power when the bottle is empty, or the risk of having the engine explode just turns me off the whole thing. I'd really rather do forced induction if I wanted a power adder. A small turbo or super on my car would be fun.

i would put a kit on the 97 (if they were not $600) for passing. With a 75 shot the bottle will last quite a while, even longer if used with a bottle warmer, even longer with a nitrosaurs rex.

and even $600 for a nitrous kit thats still $2400 to spend on nitrous before you get to the $3000 a blower costs.

[SLYDAWG]

N2O

"I'm kicking around the idea...may not actually do it...but I would like to be as informed as possible about it.

my questions are...

when would I click it in when I'm going down the dragstrip?
in 1st gear? 2nd gear? 3rd gear?
after a certain RPM?"

That will determine how the car is set up. If the suspension is stock, then as was stated, may just cause wheel spin. Either the top of first gear or just after the shift into second.

"what would I need to hook it up for a Carbed application?"

Buy a single stage plate for a carbed application. It comes complete ready to install. You may need some 14ga. wiring.

"what kind of price are we looking at for installation and price of NOS tanks?"

As was stated, the price runs in the $400 range plus extras, and comes complete ready to install including a 10lb bottle, brackets, solenoids, switches, jets, gaskets, fuel and nitrous lines and solenoids. You need to tap into your existing fuel supply with a 'tee'. The tank will be empty and need to be filled. Refill prices are $3 to $5/lb depending on the shop and method of filling.

"I figure since my entire bottom end is being rebuild with those KB pistons, it would be tough enough to take the occasional shot of NOS on the track...
yes/no?"

Yes. Those KB pistons are good quality and will take 150hp shot. I know people that have been spraying 200+hp shot on those pistons season after season without a problem.

I chatted in detail with reps from both NOS and Nitrous Express about their beginner/adjustable plate kits.
NOS comes with a lighted 'arming' toggle that mounts to the dash and a micro/full throttle switch that attaches to the carb so the nitrous engages at full throttle. This can be deleted and a push button switch added to the steering wheel, co$t ~$20 more.
If the tank will be mounted inside the passenger compartment, like mine will be in the wagon, then a 'blow down tube' must be added to the tank and vented to the outside, co$t ~$40 extra.

At all levels below 100hp, no changes need to be made. At 100hp and above, the tuning for N2O begins.

Nitrous is the great equalizer
Tis a boring ride without Oxide!!!

Gonna try and get the wagon in the 12s with only 302ci.