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    I don't get the Lokar Kit

    I don't get the Lokar kit, or how it works at all.

    My understanding of it is that it attached to the end of the throttle lever on the carb, opposite of the throttle lever. AKA, the throttle cable is attached on top, then you have the center pivoting point, and then you have the Lokar tranny "kickdown" cable.

    My problem is the following: on my car, the more gas you give it, the more the TV rod goes back towards the firewall. The TV rod is being pulled towards the firewall. On the Lokar kit, it would go the opposite way, AKA the throttle would be pulling back towards the firewall and the TV cable would be going the opposite way, towards the front of the car.

    How can that work?
    1990 Country Squire - under restoration
    1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - daily beater

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    #2
    Where you hook it to the transmission TV lever, it pulls the opposite way.
    1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
    Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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      #3
      Interesting. I'm having a hard time trusting my tranny's life with the lokar kit. But there really aren't any alternatives with 4-bbl.
      1990 Country Squire - under restoration
      1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - daily beater

      GMN Box Panther History
      Box Panther Horsepower and Torque Ratings
      Box Panther Production Numbers

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        #4
        Aren't you getting a new trans and engine for the 82, or just having them rebuilt, or am I totally wrong and neither is the case?
        88 Town Car (wrecked, for sale)
        Walker OEM duals with muffler deletes

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          #5
          Originally posted by 88Vic View Post
          Aren't you getting a new trans and engine for the 82, or just having them rebuilt, or am I totally wrong and neither is the case?
          It has a new trans that seems to be a Wide-Ratio with some kind of shift kit. I bought the tranny with a parts car, which I have zero history on. It's not a stock transmission and I really love the way it shifts. I'd hate to kill it.

          New engine, yes it will be getting one . I hope...
          1990 Country Squire - under restoration
          1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - daily beater

          GMN Box Panther History
          Box Panther Horsepower and Torque Ratings
          Box Panther Production Numbers

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            #6
            Tranny levers can be flipped 180* and th push becomes a pull - had to do this when installing my floor shifter, it normally uses a cable but I wanted hard linkage so I had to switch from pull action to push, worked real well.

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              #7
              Oh yeah, set the lokar kit to deliver MAX TV pressure at WOT... I find this is a nice shift
              1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
              Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Grand_Marquis_GT View Post
                Oh yeah, set the lokar kit to deliver MAX TV pressure at WOT... I find this is a nice shift
                Don't we all :evil:

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                  #9

                  '85 2-Door Crown Victoria
                  302 HO, -0.022" E7 Heads, Weiand Dual Plane Intake, Edelbrock 1406 Carb, Mechanical Fuel Pump, HEI Distributor, 180* T-stat, Transgo Shift Kit, HO Governor, Lokar TV/Throttle Cable Setup, B&M Torq Master 2000 RPM Stall Converter, FRPP Trans Cooler, Mustang Shorty Headers, 2.25" Dual Exhaust, Flowtech H-pipe (no converters), Hooker AeroChamber Mufflers, Side-exit Exhaust w/ Chromed 2.5" Tips, '02 PI F/R Shocks, Cut 2004 PI Front Springs in the Rear, PI Rear Sway Bar, 17" SAP Wheels, 245/50/Z17 Michelin Pilot A/S Tires, Cold A/C, Cruise Control, 4.10 Rear End Gears, Trac Lok Diff.
                  '04 Crown Victoria LX Sport, '02 Jeep Liberty
                  '83 Suzuki GS 1100E Motorcycle[/color]

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                    #10
                    Someone get Nate over here - I believe he said that if you have a TV rod instead of cable, the kickdown lever on the tranny is set up backward from what I would expect, and sprung in the opposite direction so it delivers max line pressure normally and decreases line pressure as it's pulled or pushed ....

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                    But to pull from my own memory ........ let's see, the stock TV cable pulls forward (toward the front of the car) on a kickdown lever that points up. The Lokar kit comes with a different lever that you're to install pointing down, and the cable is looped around so it pulls this lever backward (i.e. kickdown shaft inside the tranny is still turned the same way).

                    Logically, a TV rod could be set up with a downward pointing lever that it pushes backward.

                    I would think that if your TV shaft really needs to turn the opposite direction as I remember Nate claiming, it should be just as easy to hook the Lokar cable up so it pulls the downward pointing replacement lever foward.

                    Maybe the key to our answer is for you to dive under there and verify which way your lever points and which direction the rod pushes/pulls it. If you know which way the lever shaft needs to turn, it should be easy to figure out how you'd need to hook up the aftermarket cable.

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                    Alternatively .... if you already have a kickdown rod instead of cable, doesn't that attach to the stock throttle lever the same way as a C4/C6 kickdown rod? If that's the case, you can probably use a regular Ford kickdown kit for the carburetor and just reuse the stock TV rod. For my Edelbrock carb with a C4 transmission, I used their Ford throttle lever adapter kit EDL-1483, about $20 from Summit Racing.

                    2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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                      #11
                      Lokar kit. It's the only way to go with an AOD, and a 4bbl.

                      The geometry correction with a rod DOES NOT WORK.
                      1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
                      Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Grand_Marquis_GT View Post
                        Lokar kit. It's the only way to go with an AOD, and a 4bbl.

                        The geometry correction with a rod DOES NOT WORK.
                        So the rod attachment at the throttle doesn't work the same as a C4 kickdown rod?
                        2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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                          #13
                          Well, as I look at it, I know the rod goes backwards (i.e., it mounts above the throttle shaft, not below it) as you open the throttle. That cable pulls FORWARD going by the pic that AOD posted (thanks for that!). So logically, the only way it could work is if the cable went down to the tranny and attached to the TV lever from behind. Can someone with a Lokar cable get a picture of how it mounts down there for teh education of all of us?

                          2001 Ford Crown Victoria P71 - "The Fire Engine"
                          1985 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series
                          But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by 1987cp View Post
                            So the rod attachment at the throttle doesn't work the same as a C4 kickdown rod?
                            I've tried the rod in several configurations, and the geometry isn't right. I am just trying to steer y''all in the right direction.

                            I don't wanna see anyone burn up their trans.
                            1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
                            Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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                              #15
                              The lever on the trans sticks downward, and the cable comes from the back and loops forward. The tv cable attaches to one of the trans pan bolts.
                              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                              Originally posted by phayzer5
                              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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