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    #16
    I use Valvoline MaxLife, the same as what goes in the tranny (so I can carry one bottle for both in case a fill-up is needed) - can never hear the pump, except when it's really low on fluid.

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      #17
      Originally posted by OVERKILL
      Mobil 1. Get a vacuum pump or something and change your power steering fluid.

      I had my Mustang do the same thing, it had a loud pump when I got it. Changed the fluid out for Mobil 1 ATF and it became VERY quiet.
      changed most when I did the new steering box, and a few months later when I changed the lines, it drained out again so it should be mostly fresh fluid. I stuck some Lucas in there, took care of most of it. Its an original pump with 158k miles on it, if it wants to make noise for 5 seconds in the morning, it's more than welcome to do so. It works, and most of the time it makes no funny noises so I'm not going to worry about it.
      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

      Originally posted by phayzer5
      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

      Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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        #18
        Originally posted by gadget73
        changed most when I did the new steering box, and a few months later when I changed the lines, it drained out again so it should be mostly fresh fluid. I stuck some Lucas in there, took care of most of it. Its an original pump with 158k miles on it, if it wants to make noise for 5 seconds in the morning, it's more than welcome to do so. It works, and most of the time it makes no funny noises so I'm not going to worry about it.
        Lucas.......... Nooooooooooooooooooo They've got you too!!!!!
        1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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          #19
          Originally posted by OVERKILL
          Lucas.......... Nooooooooooooooooooo They've got you too!!!!!
          The only thing I like about Lucas is those little demonstrator things with the gears that they have on auto parts store counters.

          2001 Ford Crown Victoria P71 - "The Fire Engine"
          1985 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series
          But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

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            #20
            Originally posted by Nathan in MN
            The only thing I like about Lucas is those little demonstrator things with the gears that they have on auto parts store counters.

            The great part about that is if you spin the gears with a high-speed drill to demonstrate how they would work in a rear-end or transmission, you should see the stuff FOAM!!!! And of course air=no lubrication and lots of metal-on-metal! YAY for Lucas!
            1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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              #21
              Originally posted by OVERKILL
              The great part about that is if you spin the gears with a high-speed drill to demonstrate how they would work in a rear-end or transmission, you should see the stuff FOAM!!!! And of course air=no lubrication and lots of metal-on-metal! YAY for Lucas!
              Maybe, but it's still gobs of fun while you're waiting for your parts.

              2001 Ford Crown Victoria P71 - "The Fire Engine"
              1985 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series
              But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

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                #22
                Make sure you guys are using the Type-F in your Power Steering or Power Steering Fluid. Mercon wasn't recommended in PS until 1996.
                1990 Country Squire - under restoration
                1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - daily beater

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Tiggie
                  Make sure you guys are using the Type-F in your Power Steering or Power Steering Fluid. Mercon wasn't recommended in PS until 1996.
                  Oh, fuck that, I bet my car has been running on a mixture of Type-F and regular PS fluid for at least couple of years, don't see how some clean Mercon III will hurt it more than that.

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                    #24
                    I'm going to check my manual, but I was pretty sure it said Mercon.........

                    Regardless, the Mobil 1 ATF has made a striking difference in both pumps, and so I will continue to run it.
                    1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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                      #25
                      I don't really think the mixture of Type-F/Mercon-III/Power Steering Fluid will make that much of a difference anyway. I just figured I'd let you all know.

                      I put Mercon in my Ranger P/S and then read the owners manual that called for Type-F.

                      While the different types have very different properties, I don't think it matters that much in a typical power steering system.
                      1990 Country Squire - under restoration
                      1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - daily beater

                      GMN Box Panther History
                      Box Panther Horsepower and Torque Ratings
                      Box Panther Production Numbers

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                        #26
                        Power steering systems are not sensitive at all to different type of fluid. Reason is that it's just a pump. It's not like a tranny where the fluid is used to determine shift points based on pressure or actuate a servo at a specific rate which are dependent on viscosity. PS is just a pump to apply pressure.

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                          #27
                          My PS dipstick said to use Mercon II. I've also seen a mix of engine oil and trans fluid for really dead pumps.

                          The Lucas isn't horrible, it did shut the pump up, and that was enough for me. I dont use it in anything else but the noise went away. if it blows up, I wont really care. Its 21 years old and at this point anything is just a matter of time before a part fails.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                          Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            My PS dipstick said to use Mercon II. I've also seen a mix of engine oil and trans fluid for really dead pumps.

                            The Lucas isn't horrible, it did shut the pump up, and that was enough for me. I dont use it in anything else but the noise went away. if it blows up, I wont really care. Its 21 years old and at this point anything is just a matter of time before a part fails.
                            Yes, but I experienced the same result by simply using good fluid (Mobil 1)
                            1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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                              #29
                              20 year old fluid + bandaids works just as well. Besides, if you mix Lucas in with the gunk, you get a wierd red-purple-brown color fluid and thats a lot more interesting than boring pink.
                              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                              Originally posted by phayzer5
                              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                              Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by gadget73
                                20 year old fluid + bandaids works just as well. Besides, if you mix Lucas in with the gunk, you get a wierd red-purple-brown color fluid and thats a lot more interesting than boring pink.
                                LOL
                                1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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