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    Ok techies i need help today i was driving my car for an hour and it stalled...

    It kept stalling after an hour. i wasnt running it hard. either it just started stalling like it was over heated and when we got home it sounded like it wasnt getting gas. than after 20minutes and than it started up again. (Last time it stalled it would not start up again). I dont know wat wrong help me please. i need this car my bros went and this is the only car i can drive.
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    1986 Crown Victoria 302 Cold Air,Mac Shorty headers, Full Dual Exhaust with Super Forty Flows, Wagon Suspension with a Full Sound System Replacement 1/4 time 17.486 @ 77.43mph

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    I have a bad feeling you have EEC-III CFI??? could be the ignition module... try to see if you have spark when it wont start.
    Pete ::::>>> resident LED addict and CFI defector LED bulb replacements
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      #3
      WHat year is it? Does it have a TFI module? If so, those like to cause similar symptoms when they head south.
      1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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        #4
        its an 83 should i just ditch cfi and go carb
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          #5
          That would be a good plan. I'd go with a 4bbl carb, even the stock Ford 4bbl will be fine for a stock engine.
          88 Town Car (wrecked, for sale)
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            #6
            Maybe a crank position sensor if I had to take a random guess. EEC III CFI uses a CPS and a duraspark box for ignition. If the CPS goes, it will get random spark, probably wont get injector pulse, and will generally run retarded.
            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

            Originally posted by phayzer5
            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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              #7
              If you really need the car to drive "right now", doing a carb swap is not the way I would go at all.

              Like Pete said, check for spark when it wont start. Mine used to stall out alot until I changed the TPS sensor. It would always fire right back up tho when it did stall.

              2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
              My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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                #8
                Check the small connector that should be coming off of the -neg battery cable. if it pops loose the comp wont work and let it run.

                RIP Jason P Harril, we'll miss ya bro

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                  #9
                  check for spark.....if it doesent have spark, replace the crank position sensor

                  1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                  2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
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                  1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
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                    #10
                    What about the coil? Any chance of that being the problem?

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                      #11
                      Maybe. Do duraspark systems use a ballast resistor or a resistor wire maybe? If so, that could also be an issue. Coils have been known to break down when hot. I actually remember our boat dying once, and we fixed it by icing the coil down in the cooler, then wrapping it in ice to get us home.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #12
                        well i decided that i m gunna do the carb converson anyway guys thanx for the help but i m going 4bbl carb elebrock performer intake and i dont know what for the ingnition stuff yet i wanna go th cheapest any suggestions and which way is cheapest for fuel to
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                          #13
                          No offense, but if you aren't going to bother to troubleshoot the existing issue, I don't know if ripping the car apart to change to a totally different fuel system is the best idea. You're going to need to drop the tank, remove the fuel pump (or pumps, some have 2) and build yourself a pickup. The fuel lines need to be modded to work for a mechanical fuel pump, and the timing cover probably needs to be changed. You need a duraspark distributor, and ignition module. The intake needs to change, and most of the wiring needs to be removed. You need to locate the ignition wiring and tie it in as needed. Its a lot of work, and if the motor is not in good condition, its probably not worth the bother. Its going to cost more to do a carb conversion than to fix the existing stuff to function untill you're really ready to do a motor build in this car.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            No offense, but if you aren't going to bother to troubleshoot the existing issue, I don't know if ripping the car apart to change to a totally different fuel system is the best idea. You're going to need to drop the tank, remove the fuel pump (or pumps, some have 2) and build yourself a pickup. The fuel lines need to be modded to work for a mechanical fuel pump, and the timing cover probably needs to be changed. You need a duraspark distributor, and ignition module. The intake needs to change, and most of the wiring needs to be removed. You need to locate the ignition wiring and tie it in as needed. Its a lot of work, and if the motor is not in good condition, its probably not worth the bother. Its going to cost more to do a carb conversion than to fix the existing stuff to function untill you're really ready to do a motor build in this car.
                            Amen to that!

                            Dont kid yourself, you do not just bolt on the carb and intake and go. It is a big PITA if you dont know what your getting yourself into. No offense mang, but if you dont have the patience or the ability to fix your car now, what are you gonna do when your carb swap doesnt work. They take alot of tuning and work to get them running right enough to start using them as a daily driver.

                            2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
                            My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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                              #15
                              The cheapest, as others have said, is to fix what you have now.

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