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    Bad news, good news...

    Well, the car runs pretty decent with speed density, 19lb'ers and the XE264 cam. Only problem is that the missing/bucking is still there with the 19's and SD. No change in symptoms from the 24lbers and MAF ECU.

    So, what that means is that the motor is hurt. Bent pushrod, bent valve, collapsed/broken lifter, broken/bent rocker, loose rocker...Could be any one of those..

    If it's not raining too bad the upper intake and VC's are coming off. Hopefully it'll be obvious. Might also pick up a compression tester to narrow it down before I pull it apart.
    Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

    Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords
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    Hope you get this figured out soon, man... it's been WAY too long. I (obviously) wouldn't have the patience.
    2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
    1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
    1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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      #3
      Lets hope it aint a bent valve, all the rest can be fixed easily. Good luck Mang!

      2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
      My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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        #4
        Bent valve is easy enough...I could pull the heads and have 'em sent out. I also have a set of ported heads I could toss on there in the meantime. I'm getting pretty damn frustrated with it. I want to take some vacation time, and I refuse to take the protege or accent on another trip. I have to get the wagon running first.
        Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

        Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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          #5
          Throw the ported heads on for sure, swap all your valve train componets and make sure they are all ok before putting them on.

          2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
          My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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            #6
            Remember to check for a bent valve, loosen the rockers and use a rubber tipped blow gun in each spark plug hole, listen for the escaping air. Lots easier than pulling heads to look at them.
            "Owning a 9-second Import is like coming out of the closet.... At first it may be surprising, but in the end, you're still gay!"


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              #7
              If I swap the heads, I will need to do a bunch more work. The other heads are a different deck hieght, so the pushrods will need to be swapped. I have no idea what the springs are good for either. Those ported heads aren't anything special either. 79 castings with some mild portwork off my dads Versailles (and then my 87 vic sedan)

              At the minimum, if I have to pull the heads, I will port match the lower intake to the heads.
              Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

              Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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                #8
                Does it just miss at idle or all the time?
                1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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                  #9
                  All the time. Shakes like crazy under any load Runs best wide open, but still a dog. I'm thinking it's a F'd lifter. Even does a bad stutter decelerating. Valvetrain always has been a bit loud.
                  Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

                  Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mrltd
                    All the time. Shakes like crazy under any load Runs best wide open, but still a dog. I'm thinking it's a F'd lifter. Even does a bad stutter decelerating. Valvetrain always has been a bit loud.
                    Where'd you get the engine from? IE, did you convert your SO motor to HO or did you drop in a full HO engine?
                    1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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                      #11
                      Brand new Ford Explorer assembly line motor. All stock except for cam and pushrods. Motor has 10K on it
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mrltd
                        Brand new Ford Explorer assembly line motor. All stock except for cam and pushrods. Motor has 10K on it
                        That's sad man, sad

                        So, you think its a lifter?
                        1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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                          #13
                          Hoping it's a lifter. Motor was sitting for 9 years. Was always noisy.

                          Guess it's also possible I overrevved it and damaged something, but I doubt it.

                          Guess I should think positive. If it's a bent valve, heads get ported. Worse, I get a 331 or 347.... Or a stock rebuild on my old 5.0...
                          Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

                          Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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                            #14
                            How many miles are on your stock engine? The irony is of course that if you had just done a swap onto your old shortblock, you'd probably be fine

                            My Mustang engine has 330,000Km on it, sees regular track time, has its 3rd cam in it now, hold 40PSI of oil pressure hot at idle and will hit the pump blow-off when you get on it.

                            The engine in my TC is about to roll 300,000 right now........... Stock lifters in there still

                            Its strange eh, that, the high mileage ones just seem to keep going and going, yet a fresh engine can last such a short duration or just never be right............

                            I'm assuming your old engine was healthy?
                            1989 Town Car Cartier: 3G Alt. Upgrade, Mark VIII Electric Fan, Police Interceptor Suspension, 40-series Flows, loaded. HO+ Conversion: E7 heads, Cobra 1.7RR's, Explorer intake, 65mm TB, FMS "E" Camshaft, 4-hole 19lb/hr injectors, A9P ECM, 76mm C&L MAF, BBK CAI. 338,000Km, stock bottom-end.

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                              #15
                              My stock motor is in another vic running around PA. It got an HO conversion..

                              I have the HO converted LOPO out of my 87 sedan...It has no oil pressure but runs like a raped ape...250K+ miles on it.
                              Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

                              Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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