Cleveland motor

[Roach III]

I finally found one in decent shape. Gonna give the guy $500 for it.

What mods would you do? (stroke/cam/porting?)

EFI? Carb? I'm thinking carb. But how difficult is it to convert from EFI to carb regarding the computer and the information center?

Also, what transmissions will the Cleveland bolt up to without an adaper plate? Or is it the same as the Windsor?

We're gonna pull it out of a 77 F100 4x4 truck in the spring.

Thanks for the help guys!:megadeth:

[interceptor1985]

Just an idea! what about an old school shaker scoop from a mustang to go with that Cleavland?

[DuceAnAHalf]

A Cleveland uses the small block bolt pattern for the transmission.

i dont think that there are any EFI set ups for the Cleveland. If they are they are gonna be very expensive. I guess you could run a holley pro-jection type set up, or modify a carb'd intake to run EFI

[turbo2256b]

Are you shure its a C motor or is it a 351 or 400 M the differance is the bell housing and deck height as wwell as the internals. The modifiedss take the 460 429 bell housing C motors tat the SBF stuff but might have the bigger flex plate. 174 teeth or somethig like that.

[88Vic]

Gonna drop the 351C into Fire and Ice? Make a screamer out of it. I'd say 4bbl carb, port job, hotter cam, and add a 2.5" dual exhaust if you don't already have one. And while you're at it, 3.73 trac-lock, rear disks, stiffer shocks/springs. Have fun.

[DarkKnight]

Why are you going from EFI to Carb?????!!?? Efi, tru my studing is aparentley the better one averall., whille as CFI vs Carb... I gots to do a carb swap :-(

[Lincolnmania]

are you sure it's a cleveland? they stopped making clevelands in 1974......it was never used in a truck...the 351c has the small block bolt pattern........they did use the 351m/400 in trucks, the block is wider and they use the big block bellhousing

[gadget73]

Yeah, what he said.

If by chance it really is a C that was transplated in to the truck, is it a 2v or 4v motor? The heads are different. 4v motors have huge valves and intake runners.

[Grand Marquis GT]

Check the casting numbers.

[interceptor1985]

A four valve 351C would be BADASS

[turbo2256b]

A four valve 351C would be BADASS

2V OR 4V stands for the carberation not the number of valves.

[Roach III]

I thought they made the Cleveland from 74-78? We pulled off one of the valve covers and it had the canted valves. Dude said it was a 351. Didn't know which one, though.

Yeah, I'd like to go with a carb setup. Justs seems like it would be easier to tune.

Edit:
Scott, you were right. The Cleveland motor was from '70-'74. He said the motor may not be original but now he doesn't know. What engine is in a 77 F-100 4x4 with canted valved heads?

[turbo2256b]

Its probably a 351 or 400M. I have a 400M in my 78 F150.

[Mercracer]

Look at the intake manifold casting numbers. You mentioned that you had a valve cover off. The head casting date is between the valves under the valve cover. Look in the front corners of the heads if you see a 2 then they are 351C 2V heads. Some M motors have M cast there. 400s are bare. Most 351M heads are bare.
You can use any 302 FI intake on a Cleveland 2V or 4V. Price Motorsports makes the adapter intake.
Look at the distributor. If there is a ledge going up to the front of the intake then it is a 351M/400 motor. The 351C distributor is more level with the intake. If you look across the back of the motor and measure the distance between the 2 bolts it will be obvious whether it is a 351C or not. The 351C has the same bell pattern as your 302.

[Roach III]

Well, I'll check next time I get down there in the light. If it's 351M/400, I'm not going to mess with it. A 10.3" deck height is way too much motor for Fire And Ice.