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    #16
    Originally posted by p71towny
    Yeah, it will probably frag, but you could put it in with your lopo so you can get all the bugs worked out by the time you're ready to do an HO351 with a real tranny. The rear gears might be your worst enemy, trying to motivate that heavy fucker down the road.

    That's exactly what I am doing with the T-5 I have. And as soon as money permits a new tranny will be installed.

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      #17
      ZF is crap. They snap em left and right in the 550's where my dad works at. NP435 or nvg trannies from a dodge man.
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        #18
        Originally posted by Nathan in MN
        I looked at the Richmond 6-speed just now. Looks like a heckuva nice transmission. What bellhousing/clutch would you use with this? Do they make a setup for it or does it work with T5 parts?

        Should I even bother asking how much it costs or is this one of those things where if you have to ask you can't afford it?
        I think the tranny itself is around $3000. Im not sure what bellhousign you'd use, but i think Lakewood might make a bellhousing for it.
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          #19
          Originally posted by capridrifter
          hmm four banger mustang T5 could that fit a 2.0 pinto engine?
          If the EAO has the same bellhousing bolt pattern, then probably...or if the bellhousing had the same bolt pattern as the T-5. I've only dealt with 79 and later 2.3 stuff, but the I've swapped the old 4 speeds for a T-5 just bolting the t-5 to the old 4 speed bell....
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            #20
            Originally posted by Southern_Pride
            ZF is crap. They snap em left and right in the 550's where my dad works at. NP435 or nvg trannies from a dodge man.
            The F550 puts a lot more stress on the transmission then a panther ever will! What's the F550 weigh? Around 10,000 pounds empty? Compared to 3500-4000 pounds for a Panther.

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              #21
              The ZF transmissions had a 7.XX:1 first gear and the shifter comes up out of the middle of the top of the bellhousing. That's why I ditched one of my ideas for the next drivetrain.

              The 4cyl tranny will work, but as was said, it should only be to get things to fit. Don't expect it to last forever. A numerically taller axle gear will greatly help increase the lifespan of the transmission, but for something rated for under 200ft/lbs of torque in a 3,200# car to be put behind 280ft/lbs in a 4,000# car... it won't make much difference. Just don't lay into it every chance you get. Just because it doesn't snap the first time doesn't mean it won't snap later. Like right before the 1-2 shift.
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                #22
                What model ZF trans has a 7.xx first gear??? The ZF S5-42 has a 5.72 first gear in the small block trans and a 4.14 in the big block/diesel trans. The ZF S5-47 has a 5.08 1st in diesels and a 5.72 1st in the rest. The ZFS6-650 6 speed has a 5.79 1st gear.

                And the shifter comes out the top of the main case(like most truck transmissions ) not the bellhousing(Although the bellhousing is part of the case ).

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                  #23
                  The research I had done showed a 7.xx first gear in the S5-42 and the S5-47. I guess they were wrong; it was hard to find the information on it.

                  Coming out the top of the main case is what I meant. I don't know why I said bellhousing. Wow- that was off. Glad you called me on that. We'd have guys trying to put shifters coming out of their hoods!
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by capridrifter
                    hmm four banger mustang T5 could that fit a 2.0 pinto engine?
                    2.0 and 2.3 had same bellhousing bolt pattern.

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                      #25
                      I think the problem is in the input shaft and the clutch stuff.....Im not sure... Ill have to Email the Capri club I can get the trans out of the junk yard for $100. .
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by capridrifter
                        I think the problem is in the input shaft and the clutch stuff.....Im not sure... Ill have to Email the Capri club I can get the trans out of the junk yard for $100. .
                        When using a 4 cyl T5, the input shaft is swapped for a V-8 shaft. The transmission is still just as weak, but the correct V8 input shaft length takes care of the missmatch problems.

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                          #27
                          yeah my capri will have the same problem if I swap to T5 so I am in the same boat.
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