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[gadget73]

If the TPS isn't working, that could be related. Timing excessively retarded can make it run hot and do similar things. Apparently the timing is slightly adjustable, but I don't quite know how. Something with modification to the distributor hold-down. Basicly, try to loosen it and spin the distributor around to see what happens. Its also entire possible that someone pulled the distributor at some point in it's life and re-dropped it a tooth or so off to compensate for the timing chain having jumped, or maybe the plug wires are shuffled around. I'd check to make sure when the engine is at TDC on #1, the rotor is pointing to the cap tower for #1, and that the plug wire on that tower actually goes to #1 cylinder.

[OneBadLSE]

If the TPS isn't working, that could be related. Timing excessively retarded can make it run hot and do similar things. Apparently the timing is slightly adjustable, but I don't quite know how. Something with modification to the distributor hold-down. Basicly, try to loosen it and spin the distributor around to see what happens. Its also entire possible that someone pulled the distributor at some point in it's life and re-dropped it a tooth or so off to compensate for the timing chain having jumped, or maybe the plug wires are shuffled around. I'd check to make sure when the engine is at TDC on #1, the rotor is pointing to the cap tower for #1, and that the plug wire on that tower actually goes to #1 cylinder.

did all of that, and lines up with #1

[85crownHPP]

did you check for leaks/clogs in the vacuum advance hose for the distributor???

[OneBadLSE]

did you check for leaks/clogs in the vacuum advance hose for the distributor???

There are none. None that any mechanic can see nor I

[gadget73]

EEC III distributors have no advance, no pickup, no nothing. Its run off a crank position sensor through the ECM to a duraspark box.

[OneBadLSE]

Crankpostion sensor did the trick!!! Now, alternator went..fucking piece of shit

[gadget73]

Welcome to your old car. Your driving experience will be loaded with thrills and chills as parts old enough to have children fail in a seemingly random fashion and timed in such a way as to keep at least one system partially or fully non-functional at any given time. Should you at any point get the vehicle working totally correctly and say as much to someone, it will promply break down out of spite. This has been a public service announcement from your technical support team here at GMN. Thanks for listening, and happy motoring.

[85crownHPP]

damn at least an alternator is a piece of cake and they are cheap for us ex. reg. boxes
Gald you got her running right!

[LTDMan83]

Welcome to your old car. Your driving experience will be loaded with thrills and chills as parts old enough to have children fail in a seemingly random fashion and timed in such a way as to keep at least one system partially or fully non-functional at any given time. Should you at any point get the vehicle working totally correctly and say as much to someone, it will promply break down out of spite. This has been a public service announcement from your technical support team here at GMN. Thanks for listening, and happy motoring.

That about sums up the Box experience.

[85crownHPP]

not for everyone! my box has been a dreamboat... the recent brakes and powersteering lines have been the only things Ive had to do to her for the last 4 years *knock on wood*

[gadget73]

Shouldn't have said that Pete :nonono:

[85crownHPP]

its all good I knocked on wood

[LTDMan83]

LOL

[88MercWagon]

Welcome to your old car. Your driving experience will be loaded with thrills and chills as parts old enough to have children fail in a seemingly random fashion and timed in such a way as to keep at least one system partially or fully non-functional at any given time. Should you at any point get the vehicle working totally correctly and say as much to someone, it will promply break down out of spite. This has been a public service announcement from your technical support team here at GMN. Thanks for listening, and happy motoring.

LOL...well said.

[85crownHPP]

oops I forgot about the alternator 3 years ago...
In the 1st year I had it I put in a radiator and new shocks, one injector took a poop so I had them both replaced.
All the rest has been for fun