Why would my car (Cal. Highway Patrol Supervisor's car) come stock w/ a 2bbl Holley Marine carb. (http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku)
What would be a good 4bbl upgrade?
What would be a good 4bbl upgrade?
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Marine carbs did not come stock on these motors. Your car would have had a VV if anything. SOmeone probably threw it away and stuck the first handy 2bbl they had on hand on the car. You could use that carb if you changed the intake, but I wouldn't suggest a marine carb. They're non-vented and mostly tuned for steady running at 2/3-WOT. They're not really set up for the constant small throttle adjustments you'd need on a street motor.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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"Marine carbs did not come stock on these motors", if that was true then how come if you go to Summit and click on carbs, the enter 1991 crown vic w/ a 5.8L 351w you get this and only this carb:
Holley Model 4160 Marine Carburetors
Carburetor, Model 4160, Marine, 600 cfm, Electric Choke, Single Inlet, Dichromate, Ford
price: $450
Which just so happens to be the carburetor I have.
My only guess as to why they'd put a carb from a boat on a car is that the thing is burlier (Primary differences include fuel bowl vent tubes, sealed throttle shafts, and universal marine calibration. Plus, they're designed to meet flooding and backfire requirements as defined by the U.S. Coast Guard) and/or the CHP decided that supervisors spent most of their time driving at 2/3 WOT.Last edited by 91 LTD; 07-29-2006, 02:30 PM.
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I have run marine carbs on cars. The only real differance is the CG approved safty features.Scars are tatoos of the fearlessComment
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I gotta say once I took it to the king of carburetors for a rebuild it has worked like a champ.
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The librarian at Summit messed up when he/she put that little tidbit in there. The 91 did NOT come with a conventional carb marine or not. It did NOT come with that 600cfm 4V carb. No Ford Car came with a 351W 4V carb after 1970. NONE. All 1991 351W CVs came with a VV carb.Originally posted by 91 LTD
If "the carb you have" is a 1991 factory Ford "marine" 4v carb, then what are the numbers stamped into it and/or on your tag? If you do not have a Ford part number stamped into the primary side on the housing where the choke plate is, it isn't a OEM Ford carb.Comment
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Originally posted by 91 LTD
In case you didn't catch on from my first post, that carb that you linked to is a 4v Marine carb, not a 2v Holley Marine carb. Look at the picture closer.Comment
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Whoops. Still I swear to you that my car has and came from the factory (as far as I know) with a 2bbl HOLLEY marine carb (2300 I think) and thats what I meant by "stock". Sorry for the confusion.Originally posted by Mercracer
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Originally posted by 91 LTD
What boat had an AOD transmission with TV linkage on the carb?
Why would you think that it is the original carb? Without a Ford OEM stamping on the carb, there is no reason that you should believe that it is an OEM carb. '91 all used a cable for the TV linkage. Do you have a picture of how the cable is connected to your carb and a picture of the factory stamped carb tag and the stamping ID on the carb itself?
There is noting but a VV carb in the Ford Master Parts Catalog for 1991.Comment
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Originally posted by MercracerWhat boat had an AOD transmission with TV linkage on the carb?
Sorry, I found that funny!1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
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The 2300 is a pretty stout carb. 300 CFM 2bbl is pretty good, and really it probably is all you need on that motor. A 4bbl might get you a bit more butt-dyno points but its not going to do huge things for the performance. if what you have now is running well, I'd leave it alone in all honesty.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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My 1991 green LTD. Look I dont want to argue semantics here. I apologize if I misused "stock" or "original" and any ensuing confusion but all I know is I didn't install this carb:Originally posted by MercracerWhat boat had an AOD transmission with TV linkage on the carb?
and I seriously doubt that the previous owner installed it, so the question is did the California Highway Patrol order it from the factory that way or install it themselves.
As for how it was hooked up, the crappy black plastic kickdown cable was attached to the stud coming off of the tv lever.
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It didn't come from the factory like that. It is obvious that a previous owner whether or not that was the CHP decided to replace the VV with a conventional 2V carb. The TV cable carbs did not come with a lever like the TV rod linkage carbs. A marine carb would not come with any type of kickdown or TV lever.Originally posted by 91 LTD
What are the Holley numbers from the carb that would lead you to believe that it is a marine application carb? If there are Holley numbers and no Ford numbers, it is obviously neither an OEM Ford Marine nor street carb. It would be an aftermarket replacement of a street or marine intended application. The numbers tell all.
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ford dealers were replacing the vv carb with a holley 2bbl.......had one on my 84 cvpi........tossed it in favor of a motorcraft 2150
1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
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