Stranded 2005 GM

[tjc78]

This is another reason why white is a superior paint color.


*awaits the politically incorrect quotes*

I've had quite a few white cars and loved them, so easy to keep clean. I don't know what I was thinking buying a black one this time around, it looks dirty by the time you are done drying it.

[willman93]

The highbeams will go on when i hold them on. They go off when I put the turn signal on and everytime so far the lights have come back on after a few minutes. Its scary when it happens when I turn to go on the highway at night

[sly]

sounds like the circuit breaker has gotten weak. Isn't that in the fuse box under the hood?

[FordMan77]

That would most likely be a bad relay in your LCM (Lighting Control Module). Don't go to Ford for a new LCM unless you have a warranty still, they will want north of $600 for a new one which is still likely built w/ the same realys that will fail again sooner or later. I actually had this issue on my 03 Sport and fixed it with $5 (bought 2 relays in case I screwed the first one up, lol..) and an hour of my time to desolder and resolder the new relay in place. Been working fine ever since. I have the 2nd relay in my toolbox at home if you want the part # off of it if you feel like this is something you want to do.

[miamibob]

Do all the relays, in the LCM, have the same part number or are they different by function???

[willman93]

It came with an extended warranty with $!00 deductible so maybe I should just get a whole new PCM put in rather than pay $600 in a few years?

[sly]

all the relays are the same... and they're standard parts. But if it's under warranty and you're not opposed to spending the change... let them fix it.

[FordMan77]

I actually installed an upgraded version of the stock relays which is a different part #. It's a better design that is more suited to having all that current run through it all the time. If I think of it I'll post the part info later tonight. But yea, if under warranty let them fix it for sure.

[miamibob]

Would LOVE to see Manufactor names and Part Numbers! Bobby

P.S. Wonder if they are the same on a '95 GM???

[FordMan77]

Ok, here is what I have...

This is what I replaced the stock relay with (copied from my actual order)

Product Name Item Number Quantity Item Price Total Price
NEC MR301-12HSL 2 $10.70 $21.40
Subtotal: $21.40
Shipping & Handling: $6.42
Tax: $0.00

Order Total: $27.82


Where I bought it- Well Gain Electronics Inc. wellgainelectronics.com


A tip that I have- Just a heads up to anyone trying to do this, Mouser.com was back ordered up to 16 wks for this component. A little research led us to wellgainelectronics.com where they had part #NEC MR301-HSL which they said was a better replacement for NEC EQ1-11111S (the stock relay). Plus it was in stock and got to us in 3 days.

Here is the direct link to the site, and the actual relay that I bought- http://www.wellgainelectronics.com/necmr301-12hsl.aspx

And the description of this relay from their website:


•MR301-12HSL HIGH AMP 12VDC AUTO RELAY SPDT 35A 16VDC
•Date Code: 2001
•Condition: New in Tube
•Country of Origin: Japan
•Better replacement for NEC EQ1-11111S
•Use for Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis & Lincoln Town Car



Not sure if the relay in the 95's are the same, but hopefully this will give you a place to start. Worst case you can check out that website and see if there is a replacement for the 95 version. Hope this info helps!

Also, I seem to have info (pics) on how to actually move this realy completely outside the LCM via jumper wires in order to keep it cool and keep it from cooking the board. Has illustrations w/ numbers and how to mount it.