What brake upgrade can be done to the 1996 MGM on another thread was informed that 98 to 02 have bigger brakes what is needed to do this upgrade and is it worth the investment, if staying with the 96 style what is the best setup to go with?
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You can get good quality pads and it will make a pretty good difference. http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...ers-And-Prices
the big brake swap requires 16 inch wheels and is covered in this thread: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...big+brake+swap
and a long wordy tech post on CVN: http://www.crownvic.net/tech/brake_upgrade.shtml
you can buy all the parts you need from ADTR: http://adtr.net/product/ford-crown-v...rake-swap-kit/
or go and harvest them at a junk yard. You will still need new rotors (always a good idea to NOT use the JY rotors and pads).
You have the "easiest" year for the swap as you won't need as many parts as 92-95 aeros and even more parts for the boxes.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
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You have the "easiest" year for the swap as you won't need as many parts as 92-95 aeros and even more parts for the boxes.
Sly is right, I did a big brake swap on my 91 and I had to replace everything!
Then I did the same thing on a 97 and it was so simple. It's been awhile, but I think I only had to replace the calipers and caliper brackets.
Anyway, It's well woth the swap, especially in a 96-97. So easy!Comment
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No amount of pad or rotor upgrades will come even close to 98-02 brake swap. Do that and be done with it. Best upgrade you can do to an Aero.
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There's actually a good difference between crap pads and good pads... but yes, the big brake swap is worlds better.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.Comment
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nutshell:
16" wheels
98-02 hub bearing
98-02 caliper bracket
98-02 calipers
98-02 rotors
98-02 pads
possibly 98-02 brake hoses
Basically just remove whats on there and bolt up the new. Not positive if the brake hose fits, but if yours are old new ones are a good idea anyway. The extra pad size, caliper area, and rotor diameter make a nice improvement and a 95-97 is as easy as it gets for brake upgrades. The older you go, the more stuff needs changing.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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Originally posted by phayzer5
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What's a hub bearing?
When I did big brakes on my 96' all I got was new rotors, calipers with brackets and brake hoses. You can grind caliper brackets to fit on the existing spindle without having to swap the spindle out.Comment
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I put brakes on the 96 last Oct I had the good pads and rotors put on, I did that because when I got the car it had a nice warped rotor feel to it. Well after a year the brakes are not holding up as well as I thought they should, have a bit of vibration when going 100+ and hit the brakes, and feels like it takes longer to stop than it should. I had my daughter driving the MGM all summer as she now has her license, so I spent all summer driving the R/T so now driving the MGM just feel it should stop better LOL.Last edited by kevin67; 11-25-2015, 11:24 AM.Comment
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The big brake upgrade cured the common warped rotor problem for me. Bigger rotors = more heat dissipation.03 Marauder DPB, HS, 6disk, Organizer Mods> LED's in & Out, M&Z rear control arms, Oil deflector, U-Haul Trans Pan, Blue Fuzzy Dice
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the spinny bit with the wheel studs, which contains a bearing and serves as the wheel hub, hence hub bearing.Originally posted by Mr Bean View Post
I tried 95-97 hub bearings on my car when I did the big brakes because they were cheaper. The rotor was inboard just enough to rub the caliper bridge bolts. The 98-02 bearings move it maybe 1/8", but its enough to make it all fit. Spindle is exactly the same from 1995-2002, but the bearing is a CH different.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousersComment
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Something that might need to be taken into account is that people with small spare tires might not be able to use them after the upgrade. I was going to get one from an Aero today to take the place of my full size spare to reduce weight, but when I tried it on an early whale, it wouldn't work.
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yup... 16" wheels only. Already sorted that for my 93 for when I put the HPP wheels on... then I'll worry about the big brake upgrade since I need to do bushings anyhow.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.Comment
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