Found a 2003 P71

[Sphinx]

wait.. what??? what are you talking about.... i never owned an 01.. i owned a 00 and kissed a wall..... im tryna get this 03

[mercenvy]

In 97 the gears were redesigned with stiffer torsion bars, so all of them got a little harder to turn, even base/Town Car boxs.

Please explain where the torsion bars are on the Panthers. AFAIK, The only torsion bars I remember are in the trunk?

[mercenvy]

2001 PI engines still used an all-plastic manifold from the factory. In (late?) 2002 the intake was revised with the aluminum front crossover.

Wow I thought that was '99

[mercenvy]

wait.. what??? what are you talking about.... i never owned an 01.. i owned a 00 and kissed a wall..... im tryna get this 03

IIRC, there was no kissing, or else we wouldn't be having this coversation. I bit my tongue this whole time but I see it did no good.

[Sphinx]

OMG.. were you dropped on your head? I ran into a wall head on at 80....

stop changing the subject.....



Okay I guess im gonna go look at that 03...

[Lincolnmania]

buy the 03 if it's clean and not abused.......look for signs of body damage, leaks, condition of fluids, etc

[drock96marquis]

Please explain where the torsion bars are on the Panthers. AFAIK, The only torsion bars I remember are in the trunk?

THe torsion bar INSIDE the steering gear box. A larger one yields stiffness and road feel of the steering on -02 panthers. 97+ recieved large ones than 92-96, PIs, HPPs, get even larger ones than the 'base' models for sportier feel.

Just because I am not around here much, don't think I am a moron.

And yes there are torsion bars in the trunk as well

[zwack88]

okay.. so if i say 5 and he says no.... should i say.. how about 5200?

What I have done in the past when negotiating for a vehical I say I have X amout cash in hand, would you take this. If they say yes, all the better but if they say no ask them their bottom dollar. Hopefully you can get them to move on the price. If they do or they don't you just say I will try to get back to you because I will try to ask relatives to give me a small loan for what they want. Then wait a half a day or till however long you can hold out and call them back saying you got a loan and to consider it sold. Even if you do have the money right then tell them that so it seems alittle better for them. That is how I did it for 2 of my previous trucks.

[merc6]

What hapened to the blacked out one in the IM's? That shit was badass.

[Sphinx]

What hapened to the blacked out one in the IM's? That shit was badass.

the cunts sold it....

[drock96marquis]

What I have done in the past when negotiating for a vehical I say I have X amout cash in hand, would you take this. If they say yes, all the better but if they say no ask them their bottom dollar. Hopefully you can get them to move on the price. If they do or they don't you just say I will try to get back to you because I will try to ask relatives to give me a small loan for what they want. Then wait a half a day or till however long you can hold out and call them back saying you got a loan and to consider it sold. Even if you do have the money right then tell them that so it seems alittle better for them. That is how I did it for 2 of my previous trucks.

Cash in hand is always the best way to go about bringing the price down, especially if buying privately. As I learned from my father, I just put the amount I wanted to pay in cash on the hood of the car. Never had one decline. THings are different when they see the money right there

[mercenvy]

Just because I am not around here much, don't think I am a moron.

I am well aware of who you are, and I never said you were a moron. All I did was ask you to explain and you did. I appreciate the info, Thank You.
I see you catch on quick with the "let's accuse mercenvy of shit" game here on GMN.

[mercenvy]

i owned a 00 and kissed a wall.....

I ran into a wall head on at 80....

OMG....were you dropped on your head? Isn't there a difference between these two statements?

[Lincolnmania]

hush

[merc6]

the cunts sold it....

damn!