Originally posted by His Royal Ghostliness
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...In any case, you only need one relay - actually if you want to I'll draw you up a diagram with the factory wire color codes (got an EVTM) and the relay terminals and all.
Last time I drove a 4500 it seemed to shift like most newer truck transmissions, moves pretty from one gear into the other. Creeper gear is real nice to have, yes, I particularly love the NP 435 for that - not only is the 1st gear creeper, but the reverse is even lower, it's 8.25:1 ratio IIRC - basically you let off the clutch and the truck starts moving, regardless of whether you have the house and garage hooked up to the front of it and you're trying to relocate them
I think you're letting one bad experience blanket the entire like 50 years of that model. Suburbans have been redesigned multiple times, what you ran into as a kid is just one of the many platforms under that name. Keep an open mind, and don't fall victim to brand loyalty - Fords trucks are just as big POS as any other, every manufacturer gets some things right and many things wrong. Having said that, if you like box Panthers, get a truck that is '80-'91 - damn near everything you know about your car now will apply to the truck as well, lots of parts interchange as well. Heck you can use car parts to upgrade the truck if you wanna go that involved.
Last time I drove a 4500 it seemed to shift like most newer truck transmissions, moves pretty from one gear into the other. Creeper gear is real nice to have, yes, I particularly love the NP 435 for that - not only is the 1st gear creeper, but the reverse is even lower, it's 8.25:1 ratio IIRC - basically you let off the clutch and the truck starts moving, regardless of whether you have the house and garage hooked up to the front of it and you're trying to relocate them
I think you're letting one bad experience blanket the entire like 50 years of that model. Suburbans have been redesigned multiple times, what you ran into as a kid is just one of the many platforms under that name. Keep an open mind, and don't fall victim to brand loyalty - Fords trucks are just as big POS as any other, every manufacturer gets some things right and many things wrong. Having said that, if you like box Panthers, get a truck that is '80-'91 - damn near everything you know about your car now will apply to the truck as well, lots of parts interchange as well. Heck you can use car parts to upgrade the truck if you wanna go that involved.
LoL at the creeper gear comment. I pushed my Fury around with it and yep, I couldn't tell it was back there.
"If it's got tits or tires it's going to give you problems." Open mind indeed. This GMC has technically been the 2nd biggest POS I've ever personally experienced, second only to my '85 LTD. It's all relative to routine maintenance and treatment of the vehicle or sometimes you get a POS right from the line, statistics will show that happens. Short of a blown motor or trans, which I've never had happen, you just keep fixing shit until it's set. GMC has had us frustrated for months but it's coming around and starting to make us smile and be dependable. Actually, even when the fuel pump died it never left me stranded as I was right in front of the house so I can't be too pissed at it. When I killed the coil it was in the driveway and I had a spare...
I certainly appreciate all of the domestics but I do have a tendency to stay away from late model Chryslers, although I would've picked up a sweet '88 D250 regulo cab, long box with a 318 + 5speed but it sold to someone else. I love the style of Ford trucks from '87-91, inside and out. I'm partial to EFI, otherwise I'd go for the '80 to '86 ones too, as I like that body style just as much, if not a little more due to the stand alone front side markers.
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