yea i removed some metal around one of the shaft holes so that the shaft would slide thru the sleeve.......really no need to remove the shafts tho unless using them in 96-02 upper control arms
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Okay, what do you guys do about the fact that the civilian upper control arm bushing shells are two different inner diameters, and the upper bushings supplied in the 4.3153 kit are all exactly the same? Right now I have one bushing all the way in, and the other one won't even enter the bushing shell.
Edit: I'm measuring the shell IDs (on the same control arm) at:
1.250" (for the one that fits the bushing)
1.175" (for the one that's too tight)
The bushing ODs are all approximately:
1.225"Last edited by 1987cp; 11-21-2009, 03:55 PM.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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Attached: illustration of the above. Far bushing is fully installed and nut and washer installed and snugged down; near bushing refuses to go in.
My best idea so far is to pull it back apart, grab a sanding drum on the die grinder, and attempt to uniformly increase the ID of the 1.175" bushing shell. This would seem to be somewhat risky, as the shell thickness is about .062" and it would have to be reduced by about .038", leaving a remaining wall thickness of about .024" (provided it can be gotten reasonably uniform).
My other best idea is to attempt to sand down the OD of two of the bushings. This seems a much more reasonable (and safer) route to take. I suppose I could even attempt to chuck a the bushings, one at a time, in my wood lathe to increase the likelihood of getting a uniform diameter.Last edited by 1987cp; 11-21-2009, 04:09 PM.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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OOPS
Further threadjack: Scott just told me on IM that the 4.3153 kit is for the late-model control arms. I must now attempt to either locate the two bushings that are different between the kits, order the 4.3150 kit and hawk the complete 4.3153 kit onto someone else, or get out the sandpaper.
If anyone knows the bushing number stamped on the two bushings that are different ODs, let me know!
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Use the lathe and turn them down. A wood lathe should be just fine for that, the material isn't especially hard.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
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Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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Use the lathe and turn them down. A wood lathe should be just fine for that, the material isn't especially hard.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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late model meaning what years?-Phil
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Originally posted by 1987cp View PostIf anyone knows the bushing number stamped on the two bushings that are different ODs, let me know!
Part of the stamped digits are missing, but it looks like the smaller upper ones read 3341 and the larger ones read 3342Pete ::::>>> resident LED addict and CFI defector LED bulb replacements
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Hey, thanks! And of course, AFTER reading your response, NOW I figure out how to view the kit contents on energysuspensionparts.com. :p
Now, to see whether this info can actually do any good. Planning to call tomorrow and see if anyone is willing to send me individual bushings, or if I have to go ahead and order the second kit and go through the hassle of a return.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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Originally posted by gadget73 View PostUse the lathe and turn them down. A wood lathe should be just fine for that, the material isn't especially hard.
Originally posted by Brown_Muscle View Postlate model meaning what years?2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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Originally posted by gadget73 View PostUse the lathe and turn them down. A wood lathe should be just fine for that, the material isn't especially hard.
Thanks!2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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I'm not sure if the factory finish is as-cast or if its lathe turned to diameter. I think the inner part of the bushing where it goes in the sleeve is as cast, and the ends are faced off on the lathe.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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The outer diameter certainly appeared to be as-cast, though I agree with you on the ends being machine-finished.
I need to take one of the shaft nuts back to the hardware store to check my actual thread sizing; mrltd said in the stickies that it should be 5/8-18, but when I took the shaft into the store the kid helping me came up with, I think, 16mmx1.5 or so. Though, it has occurred to me to just attack the end thread on the old nuts with a cold chisel before installing with lots of red Loctite.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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